Syntakt FX Scenes + Techniques

By request, I’m moving/continuing a conversation from ST Tips & Tricks about Octatrack-style performance scenes and techniques on Syntakt using the FX sequencer (inspired by ezbot 's Octatrack template).

The basic method:

  1. Turn trig probability to 0% on FX track sequencer
  2. Parameter-lock values and LFO commands for performance effects on individual trigs
  3. Trigger performance FX while playing with TRIG + YES

So far, we’ve worked out:

  1. Basic P-lock FX: chorus, filter sweeps, resonator, stutter, grit, etc etc
  2. Freeze delay: technique for capturing different delay buffers to repeat lengths up to 1 bar
  3. Transition 1-bar looper from @tdmusic : a freeze delay that can keep playing seamlessly across a pattern change.

There are hiccups to fix, fx to design, and other use cases to figure out, so far it’s been fun. Thanks to @tdmusic, @sezare56, @davemech, @aaanicholls, @Doug, @Gino , @bloody.water , and anyone I missed, for the collaborative brainstorming and troubleshooting… [Edit: also inspired by a tip I saw, but then had trouble finding again, on DT tips from @Gerry_Dorsey Digitakt tips and tricks - #124 by Gerry_Dorsey on previewing trigs with sequence running. Nice one!]

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@Humanprogram Please post your videos, @tdmusic too !
This is inspiring, I hope to make something crazy with it. But I’m not sure I’d use AFX like this all the time !

I could try freeze delay, with additional lfo on delay time to make the loop pitch up or down. Efficient ! Btw I’m not sure if I chose the right lfo : Saw, with phase 64, in order to have a neutral start, and Half mode. But it makes a crazy artefact at the end…
Better idea ? (Will try phase 63 or 65)

Not sure how to use reverb in the loop too…:wink:

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Solid! These are the tricks that keep trickin

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Great thread :ok_hand: thanks for finding this magic @Humanprogram

Video of the transition trick

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Excellent technique! Great work @Humanprogram!
I’m going to set this up and experiment with some effects tonight!

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I’m still figuring out how to tame both DEL TIME and reverb, s. I’m not sure if you’re asking about the delay time LFO or the Amp LFO here, but since it’s not in the video:

My trig-lock settings for a 1-bar delay:
LFO1/SPD: 16
LFO1/MULT: 4
LFO1/DEST: Amp Vol
LFO1/WAVE: SQUARE
LFO1/MODE: SINGLE
LFO1/DEPTH: 127
AMP/DELAY SEND: 127
AMP/VOL: 0
DELAY/TIME: 1/1
DELAY/FDBK: 97

Artifacts come in with any sudden change in DELAY TIME … maybe in what you’re trying with pitch shifting you could set the ramp LFO to end on the DEL TIME value the track starts with?

[EDIT: formatting, and: to eliminate delay-time-change pew-pew artifacts altogether, I think: ]

Reset Trig P-Locks

DELAY/FDBK: 0
DELAY/ HPF: 0
DELAY/ LPF: 0
AMP/DELAY SEND: 0

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Thanks! Looking forward to seeing what kinds of things you all come up with!

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Thanks for detailed settings posted here !
Can’t try now, but I like the idea of detailed settings written here. :champagne:

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On freeze delay trigs: Remembering to note here that in theory one should be able to use the AHD envelope rather than an LFO to fill the delay buffer, and to have the Hold length to Note (127), and swap Decay between INF and zero with the trig, then set the Length parameter on the Trig page to match DEL TIME. Much easier than the LFO math, but I can’t seem to get it to work as expected (short bursts or ordinary delay buildup depending on the setting). Thought I’d mention in case anyone had ideas or success.

For the time being, it seems this site has pasted in my Notes app table of values nicely in markdown, great:

Freeze Delay LFO Values

Delay Time LFO Speed LFO Mult
Whole 16 4
Half 16 8
Dotted quarter 24 8
Quarter 32 8
Dotted eighth 48 8
Eighth 64 8
Dotted sixteenth 36 16
Sixteenth 64 16
3/4 24 4
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@sezare56 asked about how to use reverb in the freeze loop above, and I think this is the answer…

Reverb and FX Routing:

If you freeze a 1 bar loop with a big reverb on a snare, you’ll hear the reverb signal in the background, in time with the sequencer (and not the delay buffer). Is that the problem you’re trying to solve?

If I’m understanding that correctly, you can route Reverb into FX , which will then capture the reverb inside a freeze loop. But then in the FX track reverb will be shaded out.

Ideal for clean freeze delays but won’t allow effects that turn reverb on and off. (I think I plan to send Reverb but not Delay to FX routing for most applications.)

A couple related notes: the FX block controls reverb and delay settings for things that aren’t routed to it, so a single FX track setting or trig could be adding drive or filter to one set of tracks (that are routed to FX) but not sending FX to delay buffer, while adding chorus (by modulating delay time) to any individual track with delay turned on.

Parallel or double routing—FX and individual tracks both sending to reverb or delay at the same time—is possible if reverb or delay is not routed to FX in the FX routing page. So far it’s useful to know as a reason things sound bad rather than a feature to exploit.

Writing all this out because I’ve found it a little confusing—and if I’m mistaken, anyone, please let me know.

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I didn’t test again. IIRC, if reverb is directly sent to Main, you can hear reverb sent in background during the freeze delay, unless you cut it with a negative lfo…

With reverb sent to AFX, I heard an annoying doubled sound during freeze recording…

I’ve been refining the freeze delay (the no-artifacts method of filtering out delay on reset works well) and have found that cue-able filter sweeps are easy and useful. Details and settings listed on-screen in this video. There’s also a slowdown turnaround where the music eventually begins to mock my clumsiness…

I haven’t been able to replicate this, but have noticed that sending a track to delay and sending FX to delay doubles the effect and adds some unexpected overtones.

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This is great, I guess some of this would apply to RYTM and A4 as well then!?

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I think so, but it would concern fx control only. No filter / amp control, no fx send.

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Can you elaborate on this? Maybe I missed it. Cheers

@tdmusic Sure, just that—inspired by your filtering the frozen delay out in your transition trick, actually—the “reset” trig can both filter out the delay and turn off delay feedback. That way it won’t give any unwanted/extra repetitions of the buffer or do a “pew pew” due to the delay time change, which was all over my first freeze delay demo. The settings for reset trig:

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