The Clone War - Behringer. Good or Bad?

@nfim In fact, nothing would be better. More than anyone else, Behringer have the development resources, experience, marketing power and production facilities to fill the world with glorious, innovative, quality musical instruments. Which of course makes their behaviour all the more frustrating to watch.

(Edit: duplicate post)

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One very direct proof that Behringer understands what people are seeking is that the Pro-800 ( thread ) has very quickly moved to exceed 50,000 sales.

Listening.

( Source: Their Facebook page today. )

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I didn’t write or imply they weren’t listening, but I should’ve been more precise and added «instruments that aren’t clones of other people’s work».

I refer to my previous post.

apparently Behringer mad at Loopop and he has something to say about it…

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I bought their Audio interface years ago solely because I was broke and needed one to continue the radio show I was doing.
Think I need a new one.

Why are they acting like they do in media? This is not even rage marketing or whatever.

they really need a new PR manager :laughing:

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who’s canceling who where?

Boycotting or not buying someones products is free market 101.

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free is not a word since 2001.

They did bail your ass out before, also they bench mark the synth market prices.

That’s what I’m baffled with. Who is the target audience for this?

theyve been taking jabs at synthfluencers, i imagine the loopop comment was a throw away comment that was in line with their current “dont listen to synthfluencers” angle.

the internet really fuels the most pathetic discourse. unsurprisingly, all the synthfluencers who dont talk about behringer’s stuff, are talking about behringer again. seems like their facebook person kinda knows what they are doing.

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To me, it’s a good reminder why I boycott B and how they haven’t changed.

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It’s very sad to see such a TMZ gossip rag type of dynamic present in the synth world. In practice, I feel like making instruments affordable, even clones, allows more people without wealth or influence able to obtain them and make music.

But as a company, in practice, if your standpoint is that you feel vindicated in all behaviors at all times and blame everyone but yourself for people’s reactions or blame free market press (loopop or other) for not wanting to work with you, then it brings you to a level of a company/person I wouldn’t want to work with even if it’s just buying your affordable instruments.

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im sure that will be the outcome for some people, others may be reminded that behringer is around and may see all the new synths they are releasing. if theyre not fudging the preorders for the pro vs mini, the boycott hasnt hurt them much.

however im totally in the same boat that this kind of behavior is incredibly obnoxious. sucks that it works so well though.

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dang, you all trying shame me for owning my 1979 Hondo Les Paul clone? :rofl:

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I was thinking of picking up a RD-8 but having read about that Loopop incident and their other behaviour and then remembering I had a Behringer mixing desk years back which was a bag of shit I don’t think I’ll bother.

Outrage bait is a well documented PR strategy that works very well. The discourse nowadays feeds on it. Lil Nas X, Jason Aldean, Behringer and every other modern company is aware and taking note as we fuel the flames. I think it is the inevitable conclusion of a market based economic system in the internet and partisan political polarization age. How do you end it? Individual boycotts? Announcing them only emboldens the other partisans and gives more exposure to the offending brand. It’s a never ending cycle under this system. Even my comment here is drawing further attention. The problem runs deeper than individual action

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This is not explicitly the same, but it feels a bit similar to a weaponized use of the streisand effect to which @LyingDalai had called attention in another thread, as a way people misuse negative or contradictory information for exposure and personal gain.

I’m also reminded a bit of synthrotek who, while although I’m a big fan of diy projects, I really haven’t been interested in buying anything from since he demonstrated that on a personal level he is not someone I’d want to support.

Although I’ll just say that there are vegans who wear secondhand purchase leather or wool, they just won’t buy from suppliers or give money directly to the industry that harms animals. There’s nothing to say someone can’t buy behringer products on reverb or whatever and still rest easy, I just personally wouldn’t send my money anywhere that it went directly to the company at this point in time. Maybe if they demonstrate some kind of remorse or measurable reparations, I would possibly change my stand, but this all leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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If Behringer ever get round to making that BCR 32 I’ll definitely buy one, but if I do I’ll definitely donate at least what it costs me towards helping some of Uli’s victims.

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That’s the thing, not sure how outrage marketing would work here? I don’t see people buying Behringer gear just to be cool Affordable though? Sure, and it obviously worked for them.