Okay here goes…
Ideally, I’d like to jam on the Rytm, use it’s strengths like p-locks and quick sound design, etc. and then arrange a larger song in Ableton, tying together my Rytm, other hardware gear, and virtual instruments. But it’s always been a challenge, to say the least, to integrate my Rytm projects with my larger studio and DAW-based song projects due to sync issues, OverBridge weirdness, etc.
I simply wish to have a track of MIDI clips spread horizontally along the Ableton Arrangement view that send messages to my Rytm to change Patterns accordingly with various parts of the song (intro = A1, chorus 1 = A2, etc.). Then I can change these around as my larger DAW arrangement evolves. Add in new parts, try different patterns, make fills, move parts around, etc.. and then go back and perform on the Rytm while recording new audio in Ableton Live when I am ready.
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But doesn't seem to be able to do things in sync. Rytm always goes wonky.
After reading all these various threads on pattern changing issues, not to mention OB, sync, latency, etc. I was about ready to give up and play acoustic guitar, or maybe even something more simple, like tambourine.
But, after a lot of research and experimenting, I’ve found something that appears to work for me, on my setup, for now at least. There was a lot of great tips on Elektronauts.com so I’ve gathered a few links at the bottom. Maybe if my little summary doesn’t work for someone, they can find something of value in these other threads.
Ableton Preferences > Link MIDI
Input: Elektron Analog Rytm
Track = On / Sync = On / Remote = On
Output: Elektron Analog Rytm
Track = On / Sync = On / Remote = On
MIDI Clock Sync Delay = -32.0 ms
MIDI Clock Type = Song
Ableton Clip Settings
- Note - Find these in Session View
Launch Mode = Trigger
Quantization = None
Bank --- (not sure if you have to have this set to anything or not, this is just how mine happened to be set when I found things to be working.)
Sub --- (not sure if you have to have this set to anything or not, this is just how mine happened to be set when I found things to be working.)
Pgm = Whatever Pattern you are trying to trigger. For instance, A12 = Pgm 12, A10 = Pgm 10, etc.
Ableton Track / I/O Settings
MIDI From = Elektron Analog Rytm
Ableton Track Delay Settings
For the track with your empty MIDI clips triggering Rytm pattern changes...
Track Delay = -416 ms
Elektron Rytm Settings
Rytm Global Menu > MIDI Config
Clock Receive = check
Clock Send = blank
Transport Receive = check
Transport Send = blank
Prog CH Receive = check
Prog CH Send = blank
Rytm Global Menu > MIDI Port Config
Turbo Speed = blank
Out Port Func = MIDI
Thru Port Fun = MIDI
Input From = MIDI + USB
Output To = MIDI + USB
Output CH = Auto CH
PARAM Output = NRPN
Encoder Dest = Int
Pad Dest = Int
Pressure Dest = Int
Mute Dest = Int
Receive Notes = check
Receive CC/NRPN = check
Rytm Global Menu > MIDI Channels
Track 1 channel = 1
Track 2 channel = 2
Track 3 channel = 3
Track 4 channel = 4
Track 5 channel = 5
Track 6 channel = 6
Track 7 channel = 7
Track 8 channel = 8
Track 9 channel = 9
Track 10 channel = 10
Track 11 channel = 11
Track 12 channel = 12
Track FX channel = 13
Perf Channel = 15
Auto Channel = 14
Prog CH In CH = 16
Prog CH Out CH = 16
Rytm Global Menu > System
Overbridge Mode = blank (will experiment later using OverBridge to record separate audio channels)
USB-MIDI Only = check
Rytm Scale Menu (Function + Scale - bottom right button on machine)
Will need to set this for each Pattern you wish to have control over.
Setting the CHNG parameter to 2 seems to make the difference.
ADV / CHNG = 2
I have so far only tested with these settings:
LEN = 32
CHNG = 2
Not sure what happens if you get crazier with pattern lengths and scales.
Rytm Direct Change (look for Bank Group button)
So far I have only tested PTN = Sequential
Ableton Arrangement View
Looks pretty tight so far. Clips are starting and stopping when they should and kick is locked onto the grid nicely.
Hope this all makes sense. Please let me know if I have something wrong and I’ll try to answer when I have time. I’m not the most knowledgeable member, but I had to come up with something that worked for me. Maybe it doesn’t work for your situation or setup, but hopefully it will get you a bit closer to a solution for your issues.
As of this writing I’m on Live 9.7.1, old 2011 imac, and OS 10.9.5.
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