I just got mine and I am trying to figure out the best way to use it. I am well familiar with the rest of the devices in the lineup, so I may have bought without reading the manual in depth, hoping to explore the features for myself. So I have some questions.
Do the Bus tracks and sends really have no filter or amp pages? I was hoping to send some tracks to one bus to make a trance gate, figuring I could just use an amp envelope on the bus, like on the FX bus on Syntakt. But I can’t seem to figure out how to control the volume of a bus track, even with an LFO. Are the busses and sends really just the FX? having totally blank pages for the filter and amp pages just feels weird. In any case, how should I go about using a bus to make a trance gate effect?
Many thanks for all your input on this.
My current work around is to to turn off midi note receive and input notes directly into the unit, which is a shame as it takes away the expressiveness a midi keyboard gives with a polyphonic sampler.
Hopefully they will allow midi channel configuration per track sooner rather than later, of allow us to turn off midi note receive per track, as I don’t need this on channels 9 to 16. Then these can be allocated to other devices in the chain.
I had a hunch it might do that. Thanks for the info.
Like someone said, tracks 9-16 are hard linked to the respective MIDI channels. And according to the manual, the bus, send and mix tracks all receive MIDI notes along with note length and velocity.
I guess it depends on your workflow whether it is a hindrance when using MIDI thru. If you’re running LFOs in TRIG mode for example.
But then again, if auto channel does filter out other MIDI input for the selected channel, then I guess you could use any track without much issue.
Okay I feel like I am going a little crazy trying to figure out how I am supposed to use a bus track to make a trance gate. My first thought was “Oh, I’ll use the amp envelope” but then there is nothing on the amp page. My second thought was “Oh I’ll use an LFO” but there is no volume control on the LFO destinations, other than the sends.
My goal is to send multiple tracks to a bus to make a sequenced trance gate effect which seems like exactly the kind of thing the Tonverk is made for, creative routing and sequenced effects over that routing. But the only volume control I can find is over the sends. So I guess I could send the bus to a send, and use no effects on that send, but modulate the send volume to get the trance gate effect I want? Is that really the only way, do I have to waste a send track?
Also is there really no modulation matrix? and Undo and Redo do nothing?
I gotta be honest and say that my first couple hours with the Tonverk are making it feel very very half baked, I am having a really hard time justifying keeping it. It feels decidedly less capable than the Digitakt 2 and Digitone 2 which are $700 cheaper. I can deal with buggy firmware, but this thing just seems to have obviously missing features.
I haven’t got mine yet but wondered if you can parameter lock the sequencer of a bus track? I.e. reduce the amp/vol to zero for the steps you want to gate.
There is no amp volume to P-Lock on bus tracks. Bus tracks have no amp page, and the only volume controls are the mix level which cannot be P-Locked and the send amounts. So it seems like I need to sacrifice a send track just to be able to control the volume of a bus track.
I wonder how Elektron decided to assign specific fx to track-, bus- and send-fx. For example why are some fx only available as send-fx? Was it an artistic or a software dependent decision?
It probably depends on how CPU-hungry the FX algorithms are. If they’d enable e.g. the new reverb for the audio tracks, you would be able to potentially load it more than 8 times. That is probably really intense for the CPU to handle.
Weird omission, I actually think busses should also appear (and be p lockable) in an additional page of track 16 (mix) amp page. But you don’t seem to be able to plock levels on that page either.
You can plock the routing destination on the bus fx page (you can’t choose ‘off’ but you can choose an unused output to rapidly mute the bus) if you want a rather mid workaround. That’s an on/off trance gate (of sorts)?
Can anyone confirm if they’ve gotten p-locking of ROUT to work with lock trigs? It doesn’t seem to be doing anything when I try it and I’m wondering if I’m missing something.
As an experiment tried:
Put a sequence on a Single Player machine and set its ROUT to Bus 1.
Put very different sounding effects on Buses 1 and 2. If I switch the routing manually between them it sounds very different.
Put a lock trig on step 1, make its length 16 beats, p-lock it to change ROUT to Bus 2.
Get no change in sound when I run the sequence (?!)
Eventually my pupose with this was to make the routing a FILL condition, but when that didn’t work I reverted to the simpler experiment above.
Edit: I should have mentioned, it works on note trigs, I’m only getting the issue on lock trigs.
Where will I find the settings for the Chorus/delay/reverb send effects, are the parameters adjustable? Ive scanned the manual contents and looked on the device but don’t see it.
Those are on the sends (i.e. tracks 13, 14, 15). Choose one of those tracks and hit FX (possibly more than once) and you should see the controls. You can also change which effects are on those sends
