Tonverk: technical Q&A

There is no amp volume to P-Lock on bus tracks. Bus tracks have no amp page, and the only volume controls are the mix level which cannot be P-Locked and the send amounts. So it seems like I need to sacrifice a send track just to be able to control the volume of a bus track.

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I wonder how Elektron decided to assign specific fx to track-, bus- and send-fx. For example why are some fx only available as send-fx? Was it an artistic or a software dependent decision?

I’m sorry for the confusion: Where I wrote vFAT I meant exFAT.

(vFAT was a hackish solution to store long filenames in a legacy FAT system)

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It probably depends on how CPU-hungry the FX algorithms are. If they’d enable e.g. the new reverb for the audio tracks, you would be able to potentially load it more than 8 times. That is probably really intense for the CPU to handle.

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Weird omission, I actually think busses should also appear (and be p lockable) in an additional page of track 16 (mix) amp page. But you don’t seem to be able to plock levels on that page either.

You can plock the routing destination on the bus fx page (you can’t choose ‘off’ but you can choose an unused output to rapidly mute the bus) if you want a rather mid workaround. That’s an on/off trance gate (of sorts)?

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I can’t think of any requirements of MIDI 2.0 that can’t be handled by a standard USB 2.0 port. (USB-C is a type of connector, not a protocol)

But I doubt this is high on Elektron’s list of priorities.

I’ve been using chronopitch with HPF all the way up and LPF all the way down - modulating dry/wet for volume control.

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Can anyone confirm if they’ve gotten p-locking of ROUT to work with lock trigs? It doesn’t seem to be doing anything when I try it and I’m wondering if I’m missing something.

As an experiment tried:

  • Put a sequence on a Single Player machine and set its ROUT to Bus 1.
  • Put very different sounding effects on Buses 1 and 2. If I switch the routing manually between them it sounds very different.
  • Put a lock trig on step 1, make its length 16 beats, p-lock it to change ROUT to Bus 2.
  • Get no change in sound when I run the sequence (?!)

Eventually my pupose with this was to make the routing a FILL condition, but when that didn’t work I reverted to the simpler experiment above.

Edit: I should have mentioned, it works on note trigs, I’m only getting the issue on lock trigs.

Where will I find the settings for the Chorus/delay/reverb send effects, are the parameters adjustable? Ive scanned the manual contents and looked on the device but don’t see it.

Those are on the sends (i.e. tracks 13, 14, 15). Choose one of those tracks and hit FX (possibly more than once) and you should see the controls. You can also change which effects are on those sends

Nice one, thanks!

Does midi over USB c from a midi keyboard work? I bought an arturia micro lab to play tonverk, but midi is not transmitted. It powers on though.

And it works when I have my iPad in between and routing the micro lab into tonverk, but not standalone

How are people leveraging the Bus MIDI tracks? Admittedly having trouble appreciating the best application for this feature.

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My guess is: send effects don’t add latency to the main signal, and also are potentially use less CPU (since you can feed them a mix instead of having multiple instances). So they are “better” from those two engineering points of view. So I would guess that anything that can be a send effect is.

Note they also gave us an insert reverb in case you want to go fully wet.

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As with USB audio, USB MIDI isn’t working because Tonverk is not a USB host device.

Early reports on the TV suggest it’s not a hardware limitation so hopefully sometime in the future…? :man_shrugging:t5:

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So the big question is: Does it help to buy a much faster (and way more expensive) SD card for the Tonverk to replace the Stock SD card in terms of performance?

Here are the results… :drum:

The measurement: Total loading time from boot (power on), so the startup sequence of the machine + (auto-)loading of the factory content project.

  1. Stock SD Card (Kingston Canvas Select Plus 64 gig micro SD): 2:22

  2. SanDisk Extreme Pro 64GB SDXC UHS-II V90 (300 Mb/s): 2:21

TLDR;

Waste your money on something else :wink:

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This is not necessarily a Tonverk specific question, but is there any possibility of internal damage if I were to use magnets to attach a USB power bank to the side?

Thanks

I still don’t think it was a waste of 30 bucks to buy a couple of 256GB 200Mb/s cards to have on hand, and multisample instruments are very large so I think the loading time of a project with a few of those would probably be noticeably different. Will have to try it out.

Appreciate that info thanks! Did you have any issue transferring everything over to the new SD card, in terms of the Tonverk not loading up certain sounds, or anything like that?

It’s worked for me, albeit with much shorter lock trigs than you tried,