Further thought on my modulation lane suggestion I previously posted but summed up better I think:
‘Mod Machine’ available for bus tracks
Mod machine has 8 Parameters, A to F, that you can lock.
Then from the mod menu on any track you can pick A-F as a mod source and assign it wherever.
Basically allowing you to modulate something on a track at a different speed/rate/length to what the track is running at.
You could also apply the same modulation to multiple tracks and be able to tweak it at once on all tracks.
I’ve just come here to say this, I was suprised to see I couldn’t easily map my MIDI controller to some performance macros on the buses and sends. I often set them up with the more extreme/mangling effects and have found this to be extremely limiting.
I feel the buses/sends are the stars in Tonverk and I’d expect to be able to modulate them in real time!
Live looping engine. Really want a way to make recording my guitar in live easier or possibly. Sucks having to stop and sample it in. Ruins the work flow
Sequence-only pattern switch (keep FX/preset state when changing patterns)
The problem:
Right now, a pattern bundles together two things that are conceptually separate: the step sequence (trigs, p-locks, length, etc.) and the preset/FX/mixer state for each track. Because they’re locked together, switching patterns always reloads both — so if I’m riding an FX parameter live (filter cutoff, delay feedback, reverb send) while pattern A plays, and I switch to pattern B to change the sequence, my live tweak gets wiped out and replaced by whatever FX values are stored in B.
The workflow I’m trying to achieve:
I want to change what’s sequenced — move to a new section, trigger a new pattern — while continuing to ride an FX parameter through that transition, like riding a filter knob through a mix transition on a DJ mixer. Right now that’s not possible because the sequence change and the FX state are tied together.
Proposed solution: a “sequence-only” pattern switch
Add a way to change patterns that only loads the new pattern’s step sequence (trigs, parameter locks, length, time signature) while leaving the currently active preset/FX/mixer state untouched. This would let the sound — and any live tweaks to it — carry through seamlessly while the underlying sequence changes underneath it.
This feels like the most natural fix because it doesn’t require new global behavior or rules about which parameters persist — it’s just splitting “sequence data” from “preset data” as independently loadable, which is close to how the pattern structure already works internally (a pattern already tracks these as separate categories of data).
Other options that would also help, if the above isn’t feasible:
A Perform Mode with macro knobs (like Analog Four/Rytm) that apply live on top of whatever pattern is loaded, independent of that pattern’s stored FX values
An option to mark specific FX (e.g. on the Mix track or Send FX tracks) as “global,” so they persist across pattern changes instead of reloading per pattern
Your proposed solution is basically what Perform Kit does on Digitakt2+Digitone2.
I originally assumed that is what Perform would do on Tonverk, but it seems Tonverk’s perform button is much more limited as it only persists for the current pattern.
I’m not sure why, I’m guessing for technical reasons since track types may be entirely different, eg multiplayer → subtrack across the pattern and then the new data would not make sense.
Global Mix/FX system from Digitakt 1 + Digitone 2 would also be great, it’s sadly missing from all the newer boxes =(
This has been asked before but I think it would allow for something similar to this with an extremely simple implementation.
Adding a new parameter on a pattern to have multiple sequences of notes in the same pattern.
If you don’t want to use this feature you would leave the parameter to a default seq 1 and everything would work exactly the same as always. If you want to have alternate note sequences jut change the seq park to 2 to write a new note sequence with the same fx and parameters.
I feel this would be such a minimal change in the way it works (is literally on extra parameter) but huge potencial in usability.
With the new loop page you can get similar effect by having a 16 bar pattern a grouping chunks of bars as separate note sequences and changing the looped pages to change the sequence. This workaround is really fiddly as it doesn’t properly since it can get out of sync when changing which pages are looped.
But it does show the potencial power of having different note sequences inside a pattern with the same sound and fx settings. It’s basically the best of both worlds.
If I’m fully understanding this, it would be super cool for my workflow.
We have subtracks where we can have different sequences on each sound.
But are you saying that the same method could be done for a single player/multi player/wavefinder/grainer?
I.e. a bit like if every subtrack was playing the same sample/preset but could have different sequences of notes on each that could be muted/cleared/recorded separately?
Because that would be absolutely genius for me if so. Because at the moment I often put the same sound on multiple tracks so I can bring in a high part then remove it without removing the rest of the notes. You could have up to 8 sequences of notes just on one track then.
Kinda like having layers on a looper that you can add and remove.
Feature request: High-resolution MIDI input for FX parameters and performance macros
Could Elektron please add high-resolution MIDI input for:
The machine-dependent FX1 and FX2 parameters A–H
The per-track Aftertouch, Breath Controller, Pitch Bend, and Modulation Wheel macros
External control of the FX parameters is currently limited to 7-bit CC values—only 128 possible values. This is especially noticeable on sensitive effect parameters. For example, changing Daisy Delay’s Time parameter with the Tonverk’s encoder sounds very smooth, while controlling it externally via CC produces audible stepping.
NRPN input could provide up to 14-bit resolution—16,384 possible values—and would allow external controllers and DAW automation to approach the smoothness of the internal encoders.
The four per-track modulation sources are equally important. Each can control up to four parameters simultaneously, making them powerful performance macros. Because their modulation depths are offsets, the original sound design is preserved when the control returns to zero—or to the center position for pitch bend.
Unfortunately, external control of these macros can also sound stepped. Mod Wheel, Breath Controller, and Channel Aftertouch are normally only 7-bit. EDIT: Only Pitch Bend is already a 14-bit MIDI message
My request is therefore:
Add documented NRPN receive mappings for FX1/FX2 A–H
Support high-resolution input for the four performance macros—for example through NRPN alternatives or 14-bit CC pairs where applicable
This would make external performance control and automation much smoother, especially for delay time, feedback, filtering, modulation, pitch, and other parameters where very small changes are audible.
Parameter Page + NO value reset, à la Digitone, Syntakt, Digitakt.
For the life of me I can’t understand how such a simple function that is already engrained in all Digiboxes users’ brain and is highly useful and performative is not in place. Ok there is the perform button but is nowhere near the immediacy of button + NO after you mess around heavily something.
just wanted to check (and try not to go off topic, … but it might)
does parameter page + NO restore the page to ‘factory’ defaults , OR does it restore parameters to the setting from the track sound if one is loaded (or in tonverk terms it would be instrument / preset once implemented )
i havent thought about it much before and the gear isnt nearby for me to check.
ah… i just also remembered… SO.
parameter page + YES - randomises parameters
parameter page + Clear - resets to defaults
parameter page + NO - reset to track sound/ instrumenr/preset setup … (new suggestion or maybe what is already happening on other boxes, i need to pay more attention)
the browser is all I want.