Teenage Engineering OP-Z


#851

Loving this thing. Once you start digging into spark triggers/components and the tape track, it becomes apparent how incredible this sequencer is. Mute groups are great. You can save your pattern chains! And the pattern switching is like direct jump in Elektron terms. Just dumped some old jungle breaks into it last night and started messing around with components and tape. So much fun.


#852

Anyone worked out how to Unchain /Edit Chained Patterns? seems you can save a chain and if you don’t save and turn off power the chain is gone; but I cant seem to find away to delete the chain without power off which doesn’t seem very elegant, (there also seems to be the possibility if you can store chains of having up to 16 versions/variations of a song in a project!

Storing Chains (from OIP-Z Reddit forum)

1: Hold pattern and dial in the sequence
2: While still holding pattern, hold down a white keyboard key. The sequencer LEDs will light up sequentially, when it reaches the end, your pattern chain is stored in that white key


#853

If any OP-Z Beta testers are reading this, please bring the idea of scene mode (borrowing from Elektron’s book) to the developers.

also…
+Better LFOs and more LFO destinations
+more FX modes - customizable max/msp integration?
+envelope section for triggering EGs - these could control different parameters
and of course sampling, eventually.

Also drives me insane that the delay timing has to snap to the grid, that you can use the knob to control it.

Overall I think it sounds great for what it is. I’ve been running it side by side with my Rytm and it’s just as easy to dial in a fat sound. Work flow is faster (naturally there are less parameters). I think Rytm will always be drum machine king, but this thing is really powerful in its own ways. The playability is super fun.


#854

I hope this doesn’t sound too goofy, but have you tried storing chains with an empty pattern, and then repeating it?

https://teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/project#chain-patterns


#855

hmmm


#857

I can record chains, save chains (to 16 slots) and come out of chain mode (just select any pattern manually and it drops out of chain mode)

I just can’t delete chains (you just have to overwrite them I think!)


#858

Anyone in Canada received their unit yet? I am still waiting and have given up on bugging the moog toronto people about it.


#859

Yes, this is how it works on Pocket Operators, for example. That’s why it came to mind as a possible workaround for the OP-Z.

At least with the OP-Z the firmware is upgradeable, so that opens up new possibilities in the future. Though I would not expect that the ability to clear pattern chains would be the highest priority of things to address.


#860

I am optimistic they will allow chains to be deleted in the future, until then I just oversave, no biggy.

it realy looks like in the app it should be editable as you have the title ‘song’ with 32 boxes with the pattern numbers in…but the app realy is just a screen when it comes to pattern chaining and editing!


#862

can you sample with this?


#863

Not yet - you can only currently import samples in to it.

About 1/4 of the inside of the OP-Z is empty for an ‘add on module’ (hard to believe as its so small!) and there is a rumour that one of these modules will be a sample module with line in etc.


#864

What surprises me is that there doesn’t appear to be a way to sample with, or manage samples using the companion app.


#865

Perhaps because the app was designed to enhance rather than replace the functionality of the instrument? Also, similar to the OP1, there’s the relationship between the instrument and the desktop OS to consider.

If, for example, a sample module was released then it may open up such design affordances, which may then (hopefully) be reflected in the app.


#866

See https://teenageengineering.com/guides/op-z/disk-modes - 20.3 - use the OP-1 drum utility to create packs on your computer, which can then be transferred to the OP-Z using the companion app.


#867

From what I understand, the only purpose of the app is to serve as a visual display. It practically does nothing else.


#868

I thought you could transfer synth sounds from app to opz? Positive Cuckoo demonstrated that. So it could store more presets than the unit itself can handle


#869

If you could post the exact timestamp in Cuckoo’s video where you saw that, I would be happy to take a look.

I can only go by what is posted on TE’s website, the app store description, and what has been reported by OP-Z beta testers.


#870

Watch from 1:22:00 onwards. It could be that the stuff already is on opz and youre loading it in. If that’s the case then that’s another disappointment for me.

Edit - watched it all again and Def sending packs over Bluetooth as I thought


#871

You can transfer synth packs and drum packs from the app to the OP-Z. That’s one of its features. I know because I’ve done it :slight_smile:

Additionally it provides 3D graphics, and a multitouch mixer.


#872

Thanks, tengig