To me it’s probably the least cool sh*t I’ve ever seen. Like the definition of not cool.
Only thing that comes to the rescue is that it’s an homage.
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Nice, never tried with OG
Do whatever feels right for you. I wouldn’t even judge TE. They offer stuff ranging from a few euros up to the op-xy. And nobody is forced to buy anything from anyone.
Fender offers guitars from their cheap squire line up for a few hundred euros (which include some great guitars btw) up to high end models for a few thousand euros. It’s up to the customer to choose what they want to buy.
Pretty much the same thing to me.
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Lol expensive expensive … blaa blaa! And yet this thing will sell like crazy! It will be the best selling thing in its category on thomann you’ll see!
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I can’t disagree but it is fair to point out mispriced products. Maybe there is someone caught up in a GAS loop reading this, stocks and crypto are going wild right now. It’s also important to share grounded (if humorous) feedback as it will hopefully inform elektron and maybe TE too.
My first impression of the device is that it is a failure since they can’t price it in line with the market. Once it’s in the wild and they have had some time to collect dust in our studios, we’ll see how much use they get and how many were actually sold. The complaints about poor workflow could perhaps be sorted out in firmware updates but I don’t know if TW has a history of doing that diligently. I heard that they have a less than normal production pipeline and that could lead to products being inconsistent in some ways but I don’t know what to make of that. Sounds interesting as a work environment but perhaps the OP-XY product team simply overspent.
I was thinking actually, there’s a lot of successful musicians out there. Like, a lot. Yeah sure, non-musicians might buy one, but if you’re like at that top level, man, it’s an easy buy. Play one show and buy one of these from the change. There are thousands of artists at that level. So, a lot of musicians will buy it, just mostly not the bedroom type.
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I know the internet is an urbane safe‑space of shared ideas and discussion, but has there ever been a more controversial piece of gear? Aside from the OP1F?
I had my credit card in my lap all day on the 14th, but then I had to sadly put it away. I couldn’t afford a new OP1F either. I had to buy it used, but it’s honestly one of my favorite things I own. I definitely can’t afford the xy. I’m a failed filmmaker/college professor (ofc), so I obviously have no disposable income. But I would save up for a used one if I knew it’d bring me as much joy
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it’s just a marketing practice called “anchor pricing” where you have one product that is expensive to signal brand quality, and to make the mid-tier stuff look more affordable. It’s the same with bags: most people don’t buy a Chanel bag for 5k, but the branding makes lots of people buy a Chanel wallet for 500. The CEO of Buchla explained in a podcast that the positioning of the 200e is “unobtanium”, but helped them to sell a gazzilion of easels. PRS, Fender, bugatti, all do the same. Surprisingly, the margins on the expensive stuff are often lower than on the cheap stuff because of the dev costs divided by volumes sold.
I like high-end products, the only time to criticise them is in case the company skimped on the dev costs. Usually they don’t, as they are a point of pride for the management who overspends on them.
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The thing that consumers should look out for is that if this product becomes a success (and if TE succeeds in upping the margin of design/engineeing work via their Field series), it might trigger other synth makers to rethink their pricing strategies, and eventually follow suit.
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I really hope that doesn’t happen 
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And by 2030 we’ll live in the unobtanium synth maker oligopoly hell and nobody can afford anything anymore because TE released the OP-XY, lol
Come on…
There have always been expensive instruments and many successful expensive instruments as well. There have never been as many affordable options to make music as there are today. I’m not an economics expert but your theory sounds like total BS to me.
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I don’t remember if the opz had save state / reload for live performance (like with elektron boxes)? I think I would miss that feature + control all + the new compressor on DT II / DN II… well the more I think about it the more it looks like I will stick with elektron even if less sexy boxes
Well, you opinion is gold to me. Just putting out my thoughts out there. I do come from the electronics industry and there might be some truth in what I mentioned based on experience. Maybe give my opinion a little bit more thought before dissing it.
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Looks like it. I am not that interested, so I skipped all the zero day cheering videos. But interested in the fact if they indeed put the keyboard upside down, and if so - is it mirrored or not. Could be another creativity sparking restriction per design move (although I’d love to see hexagonal keyboards with at least possibility for quarter-tone tuning more, but that would be the other direction).
There can’t be any truth in trying to predict the future. Your guess is as valid as anyone’s. Show me a sophisticated model and some data on what you claim and I’ll be the first to change my mind.
Based on how the synth industry developed in the past, we’ve seen exactly the opposite happening: more affordable gear than ever even though there were lots of high end instruments released in the past.
Edit: sorry, if anything I said came of as harsh, no offense was meant. Maybe I shouldn’t have used the term BS.
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I do work as a reliability engineer and I try to predict when (and how) products will fail “in the future.” And most of my predictions are based on industry accepted models, so there should some perceived truth in predicting the future. In economics or marketing, there might be similar models. But, like I said, I’m just putting out my thoughts out there. I do hope that you are correct and the synth industry will remain considerate of the struggling/on-a-budget musicians/hobbyists who just want to have great and affordable tools to facilitate their creativity.
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the guy in the original band is a much better dancer!
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Switching is just tapping bar, I think that is one downside of the workflow. But there wasn’t any other way to do it because everything else was basically taken.
Yes, each clip is unique. It’s great and also a bit annoying because if you make a new a brain clip (as an example) you have to set once again which tracks it affects ( if you have drums on more tracks then the innit track set up then you have to remove that drum track from brain or else it’s gonna think the drum hits a notes and that usually messes up the key analysis.
BUT the greatness of that far overshadows the annoyances
If you’re a potential customer I would say, contact support.
The thing is though, you actually don’t know if it’s mispriced, it’s all assumptions.
Nobody here except for the people who work at TE actually know if they have a huge margin or if it’s actually RnD costs and component prices.
It’s very fast, instant I would say, but two things,
The audio cuts out, so having an external effect going out might be a good idea.
And samples take longer to load while the new project is loading,
So starting the next project it would be best practice to start a project with synth engines as they load up instantly and then add samples
No there is not.
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lol what? The keyboard isn’t upside down, the lowest row are the white keys, the numbered keys above are the black keys. Two octaves starting with an F.
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That is huge, thank you!
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