Interesting: I’ve only had a Deluge for a month or so, some of what is asked is a litte ambigious as to what exactly is being asked. But running 1.3 beta firmware, the functionality is insane. Insanely good - I will sell my Pyramid.
I’ve been able to do what arranging i desire in Song mode, haven’t touched Arrange or Grid mode yet. So these might be able to do a bunch of that is requested.
But automation view is insanely good and useful, and great for editing CC data etc.
Quick question — in the new scheme of deluge, how do you change key of a pattern up by just a step? The way you do octaves still works, but the old way to transpose by a step (shift+turning leftmost dial while pressed) no longer works.
Do you have Scale turned off? I’m not in front of the Deluge now.
It’s shift + press and turn vertical encoder
Shift + just turning vertical encoder changes the row colour offset
I just chatted about this in the Deluge Discord and Sean tested it and yeah, in recent software at least it works fine. Press Turn vertical transpose by octaves, Shift + Press Turn vertical does semitones. There was old behaviour where with scale on it transposed ALL clips, that functionality was removed.
Not sure why they said we don’t have Euclidean sequencing, we definitely do
We have also more probability, iteration, fill options
You can stack probability, iteration, fill and not fill settings per note together where previously it was limited to just using probability OR iteration per note
We now also have custom iteration settings and we have new modes that make it easy to quickly edit all these note parameter settings for individual notes or even all notes in a row
We also have note velocity automation and cc automation views
All of which can be applied to midi clips for sending midi out
Someone is also working on adding program change automation
Okay, maybe I need to update the software again — will give it a try, thanks!
Yeah I think the above was from 6 years ago 
I didn’t register the 2019 date 
oops
Okay, so now I’m realizing what my true question is — it used to be that shift + pushed vertical encoder would transpose the key of the instrument/track, but now it’s shifting the notes themselves down or up a step but keeping the track in the same key (lets say C) — what do I do if I want to shift the key up or down a step?
Are you able to confirm the behaviour you’re describing using official firmware?
Can you record a video to show the difference?
If it’s a bug I’d open an issue on our GitHub
It may have been an unintentional change
Have you tried shift + press and turn vertical encoder with scale off?
Thinking about this again
All scale mode clips share the same key
Previously when you transposed inside clip view, it transposed the key of all scale mode clips
We moved that command to song view as it made more sense to execute an action that affects all scale mode clips from song view
Press + turn the vertical encoder in song view to transpose all scale mode clips
Use shift + press and turn the vertical encoder to adjust the interval for the master transpose
That does make more sense, I love this way of clear-thinking.
And that got me to wondering:
Imagine how good it would be, if we could have a music device… in the beginning, in the planning, it’s open to people’s inputs and ideas. They’re whittled down, and a ‘best-of’ is worked out, maybe people vote etc.
Then some kind, thoughtful, billionaire (ex synth-nerd, made a lot money in crypto, or perhaps pre-buying synths before Trump tax) comes along and gives the community the money to fund it’s build and development.
Clever bastards like your good self, and others, design the firmware, which is, and will remain, open-source.
The music device also has room for user oscs/user fx, so others can code their own and sell them or release for free.
Loads of people buy the device.
It gets amazing firmware and a great user experience because of community goodness.
The billionaire makes a bit of cash back from all the sales. They donate most to charity, and of course they give me a good ole chunk for having this great idea in the first place.
Everyone’s happy.
And before any twats start shooting this idea down with their fucking nonsense shit like ‘logic’, ‘common sense’, and ‘actual knowledge on how stuff actually works’… it’s a fucking dream, all right? It doesn’t have to make sense!
I constantly have to fiddle around to remember how to do this whenever I spend a little time off the device. It’s easy but not quite as intuitive as what it originally was.
Step 1: enter keyboard mode
Step 2: hold down “scale” button and turn the main select/settings knob
Vid attached in case it’s helpful.
This changes the root note of the scale/keyboard mode. Apologies if I’m misunderstanding the question.
Looks like that also changes the songs root note of all scale mode clips…
We should maybe remove that for same reason we removed the other transpose from regular clip view, not sure
I think it’s confusing and unexpected that you’re in a clip, changing the root note and that it affects every other clip that’s in scale mode … that’s why we removed that functionality from the transpose shortcut in regular clip view
You can do this from song view using the master transpose feature now
Interesting, I didn’t realize I was highlighting unintended functionality.
I find it useful to be able to change the root note as soon as I enter keyboard mode because I usually want to set that up and then start playing something.
Going into song mode isn’t a crazy detour and I might be misunderstanding something but for me it would feel a lot clunkier if I couldn’t easily adjust root note somehow when entering keyboard mode.
Not that it necessarily matters to anyone but to highlight my typical workflow -
1 - power on to default synth…
2 - (sometimes) lay some drums or work with some samples
3 (either from scratch or on top of step 2)
build a sound or - much more commonly in my case - select a preset
Enter keyboard mode and figure what scale/root I need or want to be in.
Jam or record.
(Sometimes) build the arrangement in the Deluge and make use of its sequencing capabilities. Other times I’m just using it as a synth.
I personally am in favor of keeping some sort of way to select the root note when in the keyboard mode
Sorry if I’m misunderstanding @seangoodvibes but it sounds like you’re questioning whether or not to keep that functionality. I hope it remains.
Thanks for explaining! I had a feeling that this kind of workflow probably explains why the feature was added in the first place.
It does make sense when you’re first setting up your song to want to be able to set that from within keyboard view.
To be clear, I wasn’t saying that we would remove it, but it helps to have discussions like this so we can better understand the reasons behind these features existing.
Someone else on our discord also mentioned that they have the same use case as you.
I think perhaps what we might do is add scale + turn select to regular clip view also for additional consistency with keyboard mode.
I think I set the root note just by holding an audition pad and pressing the scale button?
Just checked that does work!
Works both ways
Hold scale + press audition pad
Hold audition pad + press scale