Really easy time stretching on the Digitakt

[JPM]

We need ping-pong loop mode on DT to give us some smoother time stretch capabilities

[dialectrics]

Exactly right. Intuitively it makes sense the LFO depth would be 60 but for some reason it’s half that. Also correct that there’s many combinations of SPD and MULT that will work, and that it changes depending on the length of your source material. Like @Jack_69 figured out if your sample is 4 bars you need to divide the MULT by 4.

A quick tip if you’re doing that - you can still use just a single page of trigs by putting a “1:4” trig condition on the first trig so it only resets the LFO once every 4 bars. Also putting long retriggers on each step to up the resolution helps with playback “coherence” at extreme values of stretching, although in my experience more retrigs doesn’t always mean better timestretching.

[dialectrics]

I’m not sure what you mean by that, but there’s lots of ways to get smoother stretching with the existing functionality. One thing I want to explore more is using multiple tracks to stretch the same sample. Layer up a couple tracks with unique p-locks / retrig resolution then resample the mix and play it back using the same method. Rinse and repeat to your heart’s desire! Does make you wish for stereo sampling but we can’t have it all…

[Peats_Artificial]

amazing i shall have a good look later this sounds like a wonderful job youve done

[LOHTANGCLAN]

This is a great technique dialectrics & much nicer than setting individual start points like some of the other methods! This + the sequencer “scenes” trick someone posted a few weeks ago have really given me new ways to work with the DT.

[dw23]

Great tip thanks!

[JPM]

It doesn’t really apply to this but just another form of timestretching where you loop grains of the sample then move the start point.

A loop mode which would behave like the default pingpong grains in ableton.
IE when it reaches the “end” instead of looping from the start, it now plays in reverse.

Then when it reaches the start again it plays forward again.
This bouncing back and forth would reduce artefacts that can appear when you are rapidly restarting a sample when looping!

[JPM]

Been experimenting with this further and got some cool stuff going, a bit more grainy using the loop mode.
Setting the play mode to forward loop, then setting the LEN to 0. Changing the pitch/tempo gets even crazier, almost get a phaser / flanger effect going! Lets you pitch the sample up 2 octaves and still maintain the rythm etc

Then turning the MULT down to as low as it will go to stretch things to the max.
Pingpong loop mode would be great here I think just to try things smooth out when rapidly restarting the sample over and over.
Wish we could do this on RYTM too but as you have start and end rather than length you can’t really get this grain effect

Also - WE NEED MORE LFOS

[CEKBEHTC]

Thanks for the post dude. I wanted to try it out and started with “timelocking” (I’ll call your technique like that now) a sample and build a little beat around it. It was the most fun and creative work I’ve done for months.
All this endless options and possibilities in a daw cripple my creativity, but working with limitations is such a joy. Discovering work arounds and solutions is what helps me evolve.

So thx again for re-discovering the DT

[dialectrics]

I appreciate your feedback and I agree, this method has resulted in some of my most productive and rewarding sessions ever using the Digitakt. Here’s a couple follow up ideas for anyone looking into this method:

1. Try live recording the trigs instead of placing them in the sequencer manually.
2. Try using multiple tracks to play back a single sample.
3. Try adding slight changes per track to pitch, pan, filter, envelope, etc to create a stereo image. This makes control all very fun to use.
4. Try offsetting trig sequences using FUNC + </> to find rhythmic variants of a sample.

Long story short, I think of Digitakt like Mutable Instrument’s Clouds/Beads, except there’s a whole eurorack case worth of functionality built around it by default

[Gerry_Dorsey]

Woohoo!!! Thanks dude! This rules!!!

[dialectrics]

Thought I’d revive the thread to say that the new Digitakt update is HUGE for time stretching. Also there’s a subtle bugfix in 1.3 that I didn’t see in the release notes - when time stretching the LFO depth is now 60 instead of 30 to span the whole sample index range of 120. This makes more sense because 60 is half of 120 and the SAW LFO is bipolar. Also the new LFO view makes it way easier to tell what’s going on.

Anyways I’m working on a follow up tutorial series on it but for now I’m just having fun. I chopped up some breakbeats and a couple cheesy samples just messing around having fun, let me know what you think.

Lastly thanks to the devs for this awesome update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yKpc5c7PnI

[FromNaught]

Now you can use the second LFO to switch between forward a loop and reverse loop to create a ping ping mode.

[Python]

Wow, can’t wait to try that out!

[kryten42]

You could do ping pong with one LFO previously….I guess now you can do it at the same time as timestretching

Ping Pong Sample Playback Trick

Hey fellow 'naughts… Inspired by time stretching on the Digitakt using LFO, and a post in the ‘Digitakt Feature Request’ topic, i’ve found a trick to do ping-ponging on sample playback, or at least I haven’t seen anyone else do this as yet. So here are the settings to get you up and running and a video of it in action. Hope you find it useful and get inspired to go and try it out for yourself… [Digitakt // Ping Pong Sample Playback] TRG: [TRG Settings] SRC: [SRC Settings] AMP: …

[PetterE]

Thank you @dialectrics

[DanJamesAUS]

I just had a go at the timestrech after not trying it for a while,
So much easier to understand what you are doing with the new graphics

[sezare56]

@dialectrics

when time stretching the LFO depth is now 60 instead of 30 to span the whole sample index range of 120. This makes more sense because 60 is half of 120 and the SAW LFO is bipolar. Also the new LFO view makes it way easier to tell what’s going on.

I experimented it again just after update, with depth 60 indeed. With the 2nd lfo you can modulate the “lfo on start” Multiplier !

Another approach is to plock start values.
Less clicky imho, and you can use LEN in a better way.

[sezare56]

Same principle, a bit more complicated, let you use 120 loops! Edit, just tested with DT, 30 loops is better with pressed button (30x4 values).

Analog Rytm Megabreak of Doom

Megabreak of Doom for Analog Rytm

[Analog Rytm Megabreak of Doom] One bar track Plock each sample at each step (16 steps) Tempo 159 Turn Start Done From @wascal** idea for Octatrack, here are its files I modified* for AR. *64 loops / slices originally. I duplicated them, and removed 8 slices to make 120 slices. **Octatrack 64 breakbeat x 16 slices megabreak of doom:

[Tajnost]

MAGIC

Will experiment with it further : )