Pre - Slicing live audio

This technique works really well with slice kits. I always record my sample chains at the same BPM so when I slice one all the others fit the slice grid. Makes changing kits pretty simple.

Sorry. I know this is a year old thread but I just got my machine, followed the youtube video posted at the top of this thread and the basic problem I’m having is that pre slicing a recorder track to any grid value (i.e. 4, 16, etc.) only gives me one slice. If I fill the buffer with audio, slice it, and then refill it with new audio it works fine. Just curious what I’m doing wrong and any help would be appreciated.

very old thread, but I get the same problem. Only one slice on an empty pre-sliced rec buffer.

What is the solution?

You need to have a sample recorded into the buffer, can be silence of you want, slice that and then rerecord into the buffer.

There’s a bug introduced in OS 1.25H where the sliced buffers won’t remain after power cycle, perhaps saving the buffer and assigning to self will retain them.

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many thanks to you

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Start points work well for pre-slice remix of empty buffers. They change dynamically with tempo whereas if you slice a buffer, change bpm, and rerecord it will sound wonky…

Here’s a relavant topic/post:

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thanks for the important tip. The only drawback I see is not being able to use the Slices trig mode grid as I like to. But I’ll keep that in mind for its dynamically adaptive advantage

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Slices trig mode works with start points (SLIC off) equivalent to a 64 slice grid. :slight_smile:

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Brilliant!

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Pre - Slices works with 1.31. Save samples.
Slices are messed up if you record shorter, and you have to keep the same tempo.

Start mode main advantage : not dependant on tempo.

Slice mode main advantage : you can loop each slice. In start mode the whole sample is looped. For both you can use LEN=TIME to make shorter loops.

Other Slice mode advantage : you can use lfo on slice more easily (doable with start / lfo designer).

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Loop each slice… I’ll have to try this.

When you say “save samples” for pre slice to work do you mean to already have an existing sample assigned to a slot?

AFAIK you can’t make slices with an empty buffer. You have to record once to match length / tempo, then save and assign to self if you want to keep a sample in the slot after power cycle. If you save Sample Settings it is safer to keep slices, or load it elsewhere.

Don’t remember but you mean with 1.25E it is possible to keep slices without saving the rec buffer? Or after saving an silent sample, you make slices, and they are kept with the recording slot (which might be 1.31 behavior too).

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I made a quick test. Slices are kept after power cycle even if you don’t save the recording. OS 1.31.
If your recording is shorter or stopped too early, you loose the slices. That’s why I think it is safer to save a sample with slices to recall them.

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Ok, but we are not talking about empty buffer anymore right?

Going back to an earlier post about the advantage of slice vs strt parameter, I cannot work out how to set loop for individual slices. How is this done?

Edit: All good, worked out that p-locking any slice trig to RTRG = INF gives you the endless loop of that slice.

Edit2: er, actually, that’s not possible from the Slices trig mode grid, only once sequenced, which is a bit of a nuisance…

We are!
After a power cycle the buffer is empty, unless you save and assign to self the recording you used to make slices.

Dead easy : Loop on (Playback setup). :wink:

I see what you mean now. The buffers clear after power but the slices remain - clever and great, I’ll try this.

The Loop ON setting affects all the slices, I misunderstood and thought it was possible to make a single slice set to loop while other slices do not. No worrries though, as the retrig function can achieve these same results. Thank you

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Yeah all slices are looped. A workaround would be to set slice loop point at the end of the slice in a silent area. Not practical!

No PIPO loop with retrigs.
Apparently you already read a topic where I talk about using 2 slots. In that case : one looped, the other one with loop off.

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That’s right, I did. Great ideas, you are helping me improve this thing immensely.

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Hi :slight_smile: I’m trying this out after a few weeks away from the OT, but (with no slices assigned) in SLICE trig mode, the PAGE button doesn’t let me go to slices beyond 1-16 (e.g. 17-32, etc.). How do I get there and access the entire 64-grid of STRT slices?