I know, right?
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Enhanceā¦
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Well watching the guy whoās demoing (who should know what heās doing to demo) struggle and try to figure out why stuff isnāt werking doesnāt sell it. 
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I know! Did me bestā:man_shrugging:t2:
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If Iām not mistaken, thereās an unmistakable SD card slot on the device! So thatās something!
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Kinda bummed that it seems to not be internal battery powered.
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Me too. As others have said when I expressed disappointment about the Elektron Battery Handle thing being regular battery powered- it has the benefit of longevity(and maybe for keeping the cost down.
If this thing could be USB powered tho, that would certainly make up for that in my mind
Iām curious. Never got into Trackers in the 90s, unfortunately. This could be a fun way to dip into that experience.
But aside from vertical tracker programming workflow, not entirely sure it can do anything my OT cannot.
Re: 5 pin DIN MIDI vs 1/8ā mini jackā¦ so much gear is becoming 1/8ā now, and I really dig using a $3 āaux cableā for sync.
Heck, if you forget one at the gig, chances are someone in the crowd has one in their car.
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Crap, maybe when I get off the road Sunday Iāll see if I can download Renoise and try to grasp what all this tracker tomfoolery is about. I just canāt see how one would improvise or jam in that format, but then, I have no idea what Iām talking about. On the surface itās just looks so damn programmy. Some of the teaser demos sure sound good though
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Programmy is the way to be, brother.
I donāt know about you, but Iāve spent HOURS working with hardware solely to make sure thereās a blatant ease in accessing every feature immediately. Renoise wets that thirst for absolute ease(after you internalize 40 pages of shortcuts).
When I poke around with Renoise, part of the excitement is recognizing its potential. The other part is recognizing my potential. Some glorious future- after Iāve finally become intimate with its workflow, and my workflow that I spent so long to acquire, doesnāt require movement of the arms or twisting of the body, but keystrokes.
Itās efficient. Itās ergonomic. Itās Renoise 
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Besides some obvious features like the FM radio part Iām also not sure it can go beyond what the OT supports. Maybe the granular engine (but I doubt it to support many grains or any sophisticated features of a real granular synth like the GR-1), maybe a more open pattern length structure ā¦
But there are already some obvious restrictions compared to the OT: Having just one big knob isnāt nice for jamming and parameter modifications. Just 2 control lines per track is also a letdown (on the OT you can plock as many parameters you want per step and per track).
(Re-)Sampling/recording is also a big question mark. I guess it wonāt support much on-the-fly stuff like the OT.
Trackers back in the day (or Renoise nowadays) provided tons of functionality, but I donāt see how these features would make it appearance in a standalone box with such a restricted control surface (no real keyboard, just a big knob, cursor keys and a few buttons). IMHO it will be a quite āwatered-downā version of a tracker: easy to learn and get into, but not the (almost) endless depth of the real thing.
But thatās all guesswork unless we get more details. How goes that saying? Hope dies last ā¦ 
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renoise is $70 or around that price and itās pretty amazing what can be done w/it. quite exceptional and was ahead of the curve w/automation and modular type of modulations. it had internal LFOs and envelope and envelope followers etc assignable to almost any parameter a few versions ago. the ability to āplayā in automation on/off commands is really fast and powerful and can be done w/any vst plug and itās dead simple to target any plug in in a long plug in chain. you donāt need a super fast computer to run it. it can bulk export all your tracks if you want to import them as stems for mixing in a daw.
thereās many tutorial videos for getting to know it and once you have the basics itās fun to jam with it.
i think the polyend tracker looks cool. probably gonna be a fast work flow. theyāve sent out beta units for feedback to a lot of people who make very different music so iām sure theyāll get lotās of good feedback. venetian snares got one and heās a tracker wizard though doesnāt use computers any more.
as a standalone instrument i think itāll appeal to a lot of people if the price is right and they get the workflow/features right.
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Nothing can do what the OT can 
In the end, it comes down a lot to workflow for me when itās about samplers. I was on the OT for years and it really hurt to switch to the Blackbox, but it was the first sampler to beat the OT when it came to how my brainās wired for making music. The OT is bang on immediate once you learn it and you can get so far, so fast, with it when you know it.
And in that aspect, the Blackbox was just even better for me. Iām not feeling it for the Polyend yet.
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Downfall of 1/8 midi is the lack of 5V power for mergers, splitters etc. imo
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I can only speculate, but Iām wondering if the lack of knobs will be made up for by allowing users to set the pads below the screen as individual parameter locks for performance edits etc, like what the medusa does, where each pad can contain different parameter settings.
That would certainly make sequencing and editing in syncopation etc ultra fast.
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youāre already in praising mode. Iām still in trial mode 
So how about Renoise vs your beloved DT?
Does somebody know of a good mapping for Maschine Jam in combination with Renoise or another similar controller? Looks like a good alternative for Polyend Tracker.
Looked for it online but could not find much, did not try myself yet to map something in Renoise.
1/8th/3.5mm/2.5mm still carries 5v though, it is 3 conductors which is all that is used in 5 pin din midi.
Source, Sink and Ground.
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You can hook them up with a USB cable and they work very well together.
Iām considering selling my DT, among the rest of my Elektrons actually.
Renoise I can do all of the things I can do with the DT(except internally resample, I think?) but within the context of a larger scale. Itās easier for me to stay mentally organized in Renoise and experimenting is also infinitely easier.
The DT was great, but Renoise is next level. Itās actually made working with a computer fulfilling to me.
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