Overbridge much too quiet?


#1

Hi,
can anyone tell me why my recordings via Overbridge in Ableton Live are way too quiet?
I really do not know how to continue, have already tried everything. Thank you


#2

I also noticed that my Analog Rytm MKII is too quiet when using Overbridge 2 and Live 10.
My solution so far has been to boost the gain using the Utility device:


#4

I think it’s been mentioned on here that that is by design - so that there is enough headroom for you to turn up every track, put overdrive to 100%, bitreduce everything and compress it without overloading the master…


#5

yes I’ve heard that, but the volume is really too many times too low. I can not use Overbridge like that.


#6

Thanks, i will try it


#7

Do you mean when monitoring back on the DT? You can boost the return signal to the DT in System -> USB Config -> USB To Main (DB). It defaults to 0, but you can set it up to +18 (if I remember correctly)…for me that gets the return signal from Ableton at about where it normally is when I’m not using OB.


#8

i know, thnaks. but that did not help.


#9

I would open a ticket with Elektron then…sounds like it may be a problem with your machine. I have been monitoring back through my DT from Ableton and it sounds fine, plenty of loudness.


#10

Each track is supposed to come in at -12db.


#11

If they come in at around -12db then that is normall.
It’s a good idea to produce in such a way that your tracks in Ableton don’t go over -12db anyway so you get more headroom at the master output. There is no reason really to produce at louder levels :slight_smile:

I use utility plugins a lot for this. For example I will boost a signal by 12db to go loudly through an overdrive and then use another utility after that to lower the volume until it hits -12db again. This type of gain staging is good practice.


#12

This happens with my digitakt + overbridge + ableton also, the individual inputs volume are extremely low. For example I have a kick full sample and track volume at digitakt, and in ableton is -20db. Only if I turn the overdrive to top it gives me -12. I think that is not right. Hope someone can help!


#13

Hi Guys, same Problem here. Using Reaper and i have -22db. When i turn the Overdrive all up i get -14db. Is that normal? Seams very quiet to me. Is there a Solution so far?


#14

Google around… Most professionals recommend mixing at around -18dbFS…


#16

Right, that’s the sweetspot for most plugins. I usually record not higher than -18dbFS. My Motu 828es interface records the a4mkii about -28dbFS with max volume! So, lots of headroom. There’s nothing wrong with it, we are not fighting the noise floor anymore…


#17

Just chuck a sausage fattener on the master bus bro. Problem solved :call_me_hand:


#18

Or Ozone


#20

I just acquired a 828ES as my first interface / standalone mixer.

Do you use yours in combination with Overbridge?

Also I had issues while connecting my gear using balanced cables. A4 and AR MKII in my case: Extremly low level on right output of each stereo pair (signal cancellation or something similar). Had to switch run everything using TS cable to solve the problem.


#21

No Overbridge in use. Just pluged every synth into the 828es using TRS cables. So far I have only recorded the Analog Keys and the A4MKII without any problems. But maybe I should also try TS cables to test the difference… ?

Do you mean the right output from your 828es interface?


#22

Yes. In the beginning I thought that my 828 interface was broken or something.

I tried lots of different combinations such as AR into 1/2, A4 into 3/4 and vis versa. Never achieved to get both left and right channels to work on all my Elektron Analog machines.

At best I could get three channels to work (one pair and the left side only of 2nd pair). After switching from TRS cables to unbalanced TS cables everything worked correctly :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Maybe Elektron and Motu use different wiring standards or have compatibility issues. Rest of my synths do not provide balanced outputs…


#23

I’ll just leave this here

https://www.airwindows.com/bitshiftgain/

Adding gain is not really that big of a deal in the digital domain