OP-XY/Z User Thread

Similar experience though not sure I’ve had the clicks on samples. Once I purged the samples that were over 20 seconds long and those that may have had a sharp, flat, or bracket in the file name I haven’t had a crash (only been 4 days though). Crashes are really frustrating because most times they’d wipe all the user content. Time stretch and other potential updates would be great but I’m really looking forward to stability updates.

It would be great if it could save/ auto-save directly to a thumb drive. The constant crashes kind of programmed me to save relentlessly which I guess is good practice but can be a momentum killer.

the setting in the bar menu is like a “gate length” setting for how long the note is held during the step. if you want to make a note last multiple steps, you press the step its on and then press the step you want to extend it to. unfortunately, the way this is implemented on the sequencer kinda sucks because tied notes get extended to the very end of the step you tie to which makes doing a lot of kinds of legato sequencing not work properly as I have outlined here: OP-XY/Z User Thread - #2163 by freqout

But I reported it as a bug and subsequently sent TE a video reproducing it.

I think what we really need is a way to dial in exactly where the tail of a note ends. The BAR screen clearly visualizes it (and notes can be any arbitrary length when you live record).

I think it would be good if holding the note step + shift + the -/+ keys (like nudge but with shift) did this.

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Yes, I noticed the legato issue too (good to know it wasn’t me making stuff up)… I hope that’ll be fixed soon. Especially since I have fallen in love with linking tracks multiple tracks to one with legato.

Regarding the default step length, I still think longer lengths would be useful to not have to extend them manually, but there are more important things than that.

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It’s really, really good. Your experience may differ but I gel with it like no other hardware. It does a little bit of everything. It does stuff nobody else is doing. It’s ultra portable with days worth of battery life and premium build. It’s generative and quirky. It sounds rich. It’s got like 3 sampler engines and they’re all so painless. The synths are deeper than it first appears and sound nice. The multisampler can do a convincing recreation of all your favourite synths. The USB C functionality is well implemented and complete. It has Bluetooth and a gyro, and a pitchbend that isn’t a stick or a capacitive touch strip. The workflow is fantastic- the arranger and mixer/master in particular. Going from any track, engine, feature, or menu with just a button press or combo is great. It’s way deeper than the KO II but almost as immediate. It has endless amounts of projects so can be treated like a sketchpad, not just a my 128 patterns machine. Both the step sequencer and live recording are perfect compared to something like a 404.

There’s more and there will be more, but nothing is as versatile and useful per square inch. It’s really fun too which matters to me.

There’s some needed features if you want to deeply edit each sample but it does so much that it’s nitpicky to be upset at what it doesn’t do (yet).

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Thats why I ask here
Thank you!

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It’s just that this thread here was created to discuss using the OP-XY and not be distracted by endless arguments about the price, which is what happened in the other OP-XY thread. So, if you want to discuss the price, feel free to post in the other thread, if you want to discuss using the OP-XY, welcome here!

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Can someone explain what ‘Smart transpose’ does and why it makes the sequencer on the XY so good? (im a prospective buyer looking for a sequencer/samplers primarily, and though the synths on the XY dont appeal, everything else seems great and worth it - especially if the sequencer can be quite deep, in which case i’d def pick one up).

  1. Basic Transpose: Normally, if you move a sequence up by one semitone (e.g., from A minor to A# minor), every note shifts by one semitone. This means the sequence may no longer fit the original key or scale.
  2. Smart Transpose: Instead of shifting notes by fixed semitones, smart transpose keeps the transposed notes within the chosen scale or the harmony of the next chord in that progression. For example, if you’re in A minor and transpose up by one “step,” smart transpose ensures that all notes shift to the next note in the A minor scale rather than simply raising every note by a semitone.

This is great because it:

  • Ensures your music stays in key/harmony.
  • Lets you explore new harmonies without creating dissonance (unless you want that).
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Ah ok, so this sounds crucial for me. thanks for explaining.

Oké oké oké

7 min video of how it works.
^. this is the smart transpose feature. its called “Brain.”

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ah the brain! Yes, i heard of this feature. didnt know it was ST

Anyone else see that the M2 and M3 buttons to shift to the next key don’t work when sampling into the drum sampler?

The manual says they should move the sample capture to the next key and they show <- and -> on the screen, but hitting them nothing happens.

I think the sound is really good on it, better than I expected but yeah its expensive and if you are just after quality synth engines buying a nice waldorf or something is probably a better bet, although the whole mastering chain side of the XY is very good, certainly a better sounding compressor to me than what is on other comparable devices and then synth engines are a lot of fun. The sequencer workflow is great, honestly people cry out for a new monomachine… part of me thinks this is kind of as close as we will get. Its got quirky weird synth engines, its got intertrack interactions, plus it has much more capable sampling side.

More on what went into it and the pricing, I wouldn’t over look that they designed some custom low profile mechanical velocity switches, it feels really good and it is like bordering on watchmaker type tiny parts. Solid aluminum chassis probably adds a chunk… they likely needed to get a new die made even though it is quite a similar look to the OP1.

So yeah custom tooling custom components all add up to it feeling really nice… (I would say nicer feeling than any elektron) they could have made it cheaper, maybe to its detriment. Maybe not, like I feel like the tiny mixer is maybe a little small and making custom tiny parts for it made it more expensive and also maybe a device I dont want to use because its so tiny (some people love this though). I think the XY hit for me, all the factors added up and its worth it to me, ifff the bugs get squished.

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Is it possible for midi ccs to work on the active midi chan? Eg I want to map controls for filter and synth parameters to my nanokontrol but want them to work with whichever track I have selected at the time? Had a quick go and doesn’t seem to work but I could be doing something wrong?

They only move between slots that have a sample assigned.

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Have you tried using channel 13? That’s the default “auto-channel.”

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Ah nice, haven’t tried that, will report back 🫡

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Great to hear. Man some of the bugs have been very frustrating limiting use on occasion. I know they have a small team and a lot of code, so hopefully they take their time and get the bugs squashed. I do want my sample chop/warp as soon as the :ant: are all dead.

The PIFX on the left side of the 24 key keyboard affect what the device deems drum tracks, the right side octave is PIFX for the synth tracks.