OP-XY/Z User Thread

Doesn’t seem to work, but would love to be proved wrong. Really want to use a portable midi controller for more expressive gestures than the encoders allow. A shame the active midi channel doesn’t let you take control of the active track filter/envelope/parameters etc. you can hard map these but either need a massive bank of controls to map everything or a controller at let’s you switch banks easily.

i haven’t started using it with the XY yet, but I have a Novation Launch Control XL and i think it would be a great match for what you’re describing. Lots of knobs, faders and buttons and you can instantly change pages/presets so you could split each page into 2 tracks or 4 tracks would probably be sufficient. Could also have a page that just acts as channel strips with the faders controlling volume for the 8 tracks and the knobs controlling effects sends and a 3rd thing!

Yeah it’s great, used to have one, might get it again. Looking for something smaller and more portable though so trying to see what I can squeeze out of my nanokontrol2

I’m using the Faderfox UC4 with the XY. Easy to set up and works great. I can save multiple scenes with faders, encoders, etc. mapped easily.

It’s quote small too.

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In case anyone else isn’t sure what to do with their OP-Z, I’ve started using my Z as a dedicated mic into my XY and it’s pretty great. Especially when the whole thing is dedicated to vocals–both FX tracks, tape delay, chorus on the master track, additional gain in the mixer, LFOs and filters throughout the chain, etc.

Connecting it via USB makes it tempo-synced, and makes it easy to use CC 103 or Program Change to switch between OP-Z presets/projects. Of course you could just use the main output and BLE MIDI.

But now I just gotta tape the LED on the side 'cause that thing is annoying to have in your face for minutes at a time.

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No it works… i use a Expressive E Touché on the active track Channel to inject midi data to MOD and PB while recording…

So I don’t see why it shouldn’t work with the filter CCs

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I think it only works for notes,mod wheels and pitch bend, I.e a midi keyboard. I don’t think any of the other non-keyboard parameters relate to the active track/auto midi channel.

Please prove me wrong though!

As that could be the case… I’ll take a look myself.

Going to test this myself today. I wonder if it’s a bug and it’s supposed to also work for the params assigned to the encoders too.

Edit: Just tested it there with the param CCS (12-15) and some of the envelope CCs, no dice. It’s a pity that doesn’t seem to work. Maybe it’s just me not setting it up right and there’s something else to configure for it to work properly.

Out of the box I was able to configure it for thr individual instrument tracks, but it would be great to be able to move through the selected track via MIDI CC and then auto-assign four encoders to the selected instrument params 1-4 and the next set of four encoders to some of the envelope params for amp and filter.

I sent a bug report/query regarding this auto channel param and envelope MIDI control to TE there to see what they say.

It would make sense that this should work, so it could be a bug, but if not it would be great to see it Implemented in a future firmware.

I also mentioned that it would be great to have the comprehensive list of MIDI CCs in the manual as currently it seems to only have a subset.

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Would be incredible if implemented. Love the precision of the encoders but they’re not good for live expressive filter tweaking.

Did midi cc parameters work via active/auto channel on opz?

not sure if I’ve missed it in the thread but is there a solution to the pitch bend automation issue yet? been searching but can’t see one.
I’ve done the calibration thing, and I can see the automation line in the bar window, but still doesn’t play back?

Okay I am obviously challenged because I have tried everything and still no luck. Can you confirm there is visual feedback on the screen when you click or twist the encoder? I don’t see anything and all my samples are in stereo. I am sampling via usb to one of the keys in “drum” sampling mode. If someone could take a picture of what “mono” sampling mode looks like that would be helpful.

There’s no visual feedback yet. You’ll just have to listen until they (hopefully) add graphics.

Does this happen with all presets or just some? I haven’t had an issue recording pitch bend, but I’ve run into a similar issue while using a preset with pitch bend disabled.

Press M2, hold shift, and see if the 3rd line says Off–that specifies the pitch bend range for the synth engine (but not for automation).

pitchblend def enabled… (I can hear it happening when I record and its set to octave on the M2 page… )
have tried with a few presets now and still nothing :frowning:

Yeesh, that sucks. One more thing to try that might help narrow it down: can you hear the recorded pitch bend if you assign it to modulate another parameter?

  1. Shift + Instrument
  2. Scroll to Mod
  3. Set pitchbend target to filter cutoff (filter1) or whatever you’ll be able to hear
  4. Set pitchbend amount to a high value

Might be an exercise in futility, but it might help pinpoint the issue.

I did a deep dive on the XY’s filters, envelopes, and filter envelopes here:

The biggest tip I haven’t already shared in this thread is that keytracking can actually be very useful for drum tracks if you dial in the cutoff for your kick/snare. That way the higher notes have a higher cutoff than the kick. It does mean the cutoff point can be a little unpredictable when there’s a cymbal and kick hitting at the same time, but I kinda like it.

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tried that… no difference… records it ok (and you can hear it happening as you do it, then see it in the bar window) but no response on playback
I know a few other people had this issue but I can’t remember if anyone solved it?

I dunno if this is how it works but when you got to the calibration of the pitch bend is it jittery? Like even in the middle? I wonder if there is some chance than your XY is convinced your are using the pitch bend and it is overriding your recorded pitch data.