Anyone used the new 3.0 mpc bible?
Suppose itās a no brainer to learn the new OS?
I find 3.0 more normal than the older os
in what regard?
From old MPC, i find os 3 more logic than the older os
Iāve seen this mentioned alot online. I donāt have any knowledge of it and am not the type to discourage folks from seeking information/education.
However, Iām new to Live 2 and MPC 3 and I didnāt have any issues getting up to speed in a few hours. MPC 3 is very simple in my opinion. I mean, very simple. I canāt imagine anyone with experience with any major DAW not figuring it out by themselves by just putting a little time in.
Also, Akaiās manual and MPC 3 overview on their YouTube is very thorough and covered everything I didnāt catch. Add to that an unlimited supply of free videos by synthfluencers covering the same exact things and I personally wouldnāt consider paying for another guide. Iād rather buy an expansion or plug-in myself.
YMMV.
MPC Bible is a classic learning tool for the MPC. Iām sure the MPC-Tutor did a great job with MPC3.0 also. The teaching approach is great, hands on, practical and well-structured.
The Bible is cool but you donāt really need it if you watch YouTube. But itās nice because it made by someone with way more MPC experience than most YouTubers.
BTW, Tutor is at Superbooth right now. Hopefully he can get some good info!
the only reason to get it really
so why is no one even talking about Akai at super booth?
Exactly my current setup! With addition of the Digitone 2 chained on the end. ( need to exchange my digitakt 1 for 2 tho, soon! )
This whole thing is so creative and powerful. Can recommend anyone who has these devices.
Fast, Easy and amazing quality of sound.
yeah the digitakt and mpc are the only things i can use together and get the same feeling theyāre like voltron
MPC Live 2 seems discontinued on Thomann too now. It wonāt even show up as a search result. So thereās at least no doubt that a replacement is imminent.
Yeah I was thinking that and thatās what I usually do but I think I just wanted something more structured this time because I bought the mpc live when it came out and didnāt like the OS. I got lost in its options and i got bored real quick.
I have very little spare time and if im not clicking with something it goes, I know thatās bad and Iād like to have more time to explore gear but I like my time focussed and making music so thought having the bible might push me to learn it quicker.
Plus itās financially supporting someone who has worked hard on something which is always cool
Iāll start with what you suggested and if not clicking quickly move on to the bible.
Iāve had a blast on my new mpc one for an hour and I was already making a beat quicker than I did with the live on the old OS so all positive so far ![]()
Thomann had very high discounts during the Easter period, they also had the MPC X SE for ā¬1500, and they sold everything. I donāt know if new models will arrive but personally I would like a new MPC X all black and at this point a little more powerful. The thing that bored me of my Live and all the other models are the 4 vertical knobs, there are too many plugins now, too many settings, itās a continuous movement between touchscreen and physical controls, letās hope that new models come out soon
I agree, the layout of 4 vertical encoders is an odd choice that never really made sense. Given the horizontal screen layout it would have made much more sense with a 4 x 2 horizontal encoder group like on the Digitakt.
Force style with 1x8 and displays wouldnāt hurt either ![]()
More 3.0 stuff
I know Iām harping on and I should have let this go a long time ago, but this really, really jumped out at me and, well, I just canāt help myself. In case it isnāt clear, obviously Iām not saying that one way is right and another is wrong or really obviously that it isnāt good that some people are very into 3.0, or that that itās somehow bad that it makes a lot more intuitive sense to some users.
So, Iām just responding to this not because Iām trying to say thinking itās āmore normalā is somehow wrong, Iām pretty much agreeing except that it goes to exactly why I personally am not into it at all. Iām taking ānormalā as more like a standard Ableton/FL type DAW. I liked it that MPCs were a bit different from this, if I wanted ānormalā Iād just use tools that already worked that way. A lot of the appeal of an MPC was because it wasnāt that.
And I donāt think that 3.0 is any more or less logical than what went before. Itās basically the difference between the logic of a pretty much independent sequencer and rack of samplers/synths vs. a DAW - the latter may seem more familiar and normal, doesnāt mean itās per se more logical - thatās not the same thing. And it reduces the amount of flexibility and choices available down to pretty much one ānormalā option. If you wanted to, with a little bit of organisation, you could pretty much have had the unified track type āintegrated workflowā thing previously anyhow. But now itās the only show in town, and I think thatās a shame - I guess this is a lot of why it bugs me so much that I canāt help commenting ⦠why does everything have to work the same way? But again, if this works for people then great, but equally you have to allow that it really doesnāt work for other people.
Itās a lot more goal-focused for sure, for me it feels like it wants to funnel everything through the main page and into the arranger and into a āfinished songā - for me thatās not a good fit. I like having these things siloed a bit. A lot of the time Iām not trying to make a āfinished songā. Maybe I could do with a bit more efficiency, and I can see how this is great for people who want to be āmaking a songā most or all of the time and banging out beat after beat, but itās just not what Iām about - this same point came up on Ian Pooleyās Beats in Space interview from the other day.
Anyway, speaking of Ian Pooley.