I know I’m harping on and I should have let this go a long time ago, but this really, really jumped out at me and, well, I just can’t help myself. In case it isn’t clear, obviously I’m not saying that one way is right and another is wrong or really obviously that it isn’t good that some people are very into 3.0, or that that it’s somehow bad that it makes a lot more intuitive sense to some users.
So, I’m just responding to this not because I’m trying to say thinking it’s “more normal” is somehow wrong, I’m pretty much agreeing except that it goes to exactly why I personally am not into it at all. I’m taking “normal” as more like a standard Ableton/FL type DAW. I liked it that MPCs were a bit different from this, if I wanted “normal” I’d just use tools that already worked that way. A lot of the appeal of an MPC was because it wasn’t that.
And I don’t think that 3.0 is any more or less logical than what went before. It’s basically the difference between the logic of a pretty much independent sequencer and rack of samplers/synths vs. a DAW - the latter may seem more familiar and normal, doesn’t mean it’s per se more logical - that’s not the same thing. And it reduces the amount of flexibility and choices available down to pretty much one “normal” option. If you wanted to, with a little bit of organisation, you could pretty much have had the unified track type “integrated workflow” thing previously anyhow. But now it’s the only show in town, and I think that’s a shame - I guess this is a lot of why it bugs me so much that I can’t help commenting … why does everything have to work the same way? But again, if this works for people then great, but equally you have to allow that it really doesn’t work for other people.
It’s a lot more goal-focused for sure, for me it feels like it wants to funnel everything through the main page and into the arranger and into a “finished song” - for me that’s not a good fit. I like having these things siloed a bit. A lot of the time I’m not trying to make a “finished song”. Maybe I could do with a bit more efficiency, and I can see how this is great for people who want to be “making a song” most or all of the time and banging out beat after beat, but it’s just not what I’m about - this same point came up on Ian Pooley’s Beats in Space interview from the other day.
Nice! Having a blast is the key. I haven’t been able to pull myself away from my MPC since getting it. I’m now getting to the point where there isn’t much thinking and I’m zooming thru the workflow.
It’s simply a video illustrating MPC as a complete song creation workstation for those who don’t know or who look at it as just another sampler or drum machine. Which I bet is a larger number than the amount of people who care to hear about what’s wrong with MpC 3 or whatever complaints people/influencers repeat ad nauseam.
But yeah….for clicks indeed. I’m sure there are people who make videos to not get clicks.lol
I spent the afternoon trying to create audio loops with the mpc synchronized to ableton, nothing works on the arrangement and not even with the looper, only the sampler works, the only option is to use the internal clock. On a page of the Akai site it says that the recording would work with the midi time code, and I would therefore need a plugin on Ableton to send this type of signal, has anyone ever tried this system? Does it work?
Syncing over midi clock? Haven’t used MTC out of Ableton, but just to say that in my experience Link is worth a go, haven’t tried on 3.0 but found it surprisingly good on 2.15.
I did a quick test with ableton link and actually recording on the audio track works, but the timing between Ableton and mpc was very out of sync, I have to work on it
Definitely going to try this when I get the chance. Did you know that you can change the overlay for the effects w/ graphic design software like Adobe Photoshop or Affinity Photo.
Ableton Link works the best. Also. Record to your audio tracks. I found that works the best and is the tightest recording I can get. It adjusts the offset.
My theory is that the MPC compensates after the fact for the delay you’re hearing
Today I tried again and I saw that Link works well but only using the mpc buttons, if I start Ableton from pc or Push the synch is all wrong. Apart from this today I had the problem that the overdub does not work, I used the audio track to record and the recording happens only once, when I click the overdub button it does not record, I do not know what I am doing wrong
