I’m planning to use DT in that way as my multitrack disk recorder as well as for its other uses. 12 mins audio per project is decent. granted it’s only 8 tracks but all drums will only ever take up 3 tracks at most with sample locks.
lots of scope
yep, sounds more like tempests automation than p-locks.
I’ve tried this briefly on OT. Maybe I didn’t give it a fair go but I found it really stressful/clunky compared to having a dedictated recorder or daw… Might be different for you tho depending on how long you want your standard audio tracks to be in relation to patterns you want to jam etc. Is there not a cheap little digital multitrack out there that would respond to DT transport via midi? Might save a lot of fiddling around long term and you could record any stereo you wanted on that with your mono stuff coming from DT…
I must say I’m really looking forward to it.
Haha hopefully it fits your workflow/music better than it did mine, would be a nice compact solution
Are there any restrictions on sample length on the DT? I thought I heard that but I might be wrong.
The Live really does seem ideal for recording DAW style (assuming it works as advertised).
I recently bought a tiny little Boss multitrack recorder (used). I figure for the meantime, I can sequence my hardware sampler and low polyphony synths (Volcas, etc) with the Digitakt, record it as a live pass through a mixer with outboard effects into my recorder and then lay down guitar, bass, keys, other synths on top of that as needed.
If I can eventually swing it, I would like to add the Live later for a set up like Ill Green was describing. Basically use it as a hardware recorder with advanced midi and sampling capabilities.
If I understand correctly on both DT and mpc ‘audio tracks’ will be tied to a pattern. They won’t run alongside other patterns and you won’t be able to jump to a part of the section of audio and it be on any kind of relative timeline to patterns etc. That can be pretty restrictive depending on the chunks of audio you’re using and how far along you are in settling on a song structure/arrangement. It’s not the same as jamming on an Elektron/mpc and adding that to existing ‘audio’ tracks or recording a box in to a recorder/daw. At least it definitely felt wrong/hassle when I tried it on OT. Maybe I just didn’t get my head round it or it would fit other people better.
Edit - on the mpc the ‘audio’ tracks are at least linear, in that you can start from anywhere along them and they’ll play. So it’s more feasible for normal audio track use. My problem with trying to use OT for this was that you have to play the sequence from the start of the audio clip for it to trigger. Theres no way of ‘I just wanna add this note on the pattern at the bridge section’ without listening to the whole thing from the start. Tedious…
One way to deal with the limitation that audio track is tied to the pattern is to use oneshot
Just trigger the sample at the sequence1(pattern 1) and then you can change to sequence2, 3 etc. and that long audio will still play over other sequences(patterns). Problem solved.
Yeah, I just edited my post to highlight my main frustration with OT for this kind of thing. It’s that you can’t start from anywhere else except the beginning of the audio in order for it to play. It needs to be trigged. You can’t work on middle section etc without listening to it from the beginning. Seems better on MPC but I still wouldn’t really want to use it as a multitrack unless I had to. Seems like it would possibly restrict/define a lot of programming options that followed. Def would use mpc to add audio tracks to at some point, but probably not while I was jamming patterns/arrangements, unless they were pattern length chunks of audio. Or if I was using one long pattern as a whole song.
yea mpc live is totally more suited to long audio but DT can totally do it. they initially told me there’ll be no restriction to sample length on dt but then cenk said possibly 33 seconds or somit. I really hope they remove any limit, tho I can see myself ending up just sampling shorter musical phrases and jamming with em on DT with the filter n lfo n all to extend them. gonna get everything recorded onto dt and multitrack jam it into ableton for a little further editing and mixing etc.
there’s no limit on mpc I gather, just hard disk space.
Ohhhhhh, yeah! DT will be fine for ‘chunks’ I thought you meant like song-length tracks
which is the thing I found ballache/backwards trying to do on OT… Yeah you should be set for what you want with DT
yea i was talking about loooong length audio too, tho I was sayin cause that leaves you a bit inflexible I could see me probably reverting to smaller phrases like 4 - 16 bars in general cause you got more flexibility with that.
I get how the MPC works, mainly because I was an MPC 1K users for a long time and can visualize the workflow, at least on the midi side. Although I would like to see some videos of the audio tracks in action to make 100% sure it functions like I imagine.
I’m now lost on how the Digitakt works. For some reason, I had assumed that the audio tracks were the tracks that all the samples were being triggered on and the midi tracks were 8 separate tracks for external midi. Am I wrong?
The key will be if sample mode can be armed and record while the track is playing. If so you could listen to the loop and then use the threshold sampling to pop in at the right time and lay down a bass or guitar loop. You could then assign it to a step and drop it where you want it.
If the sequencer can’t play while you are sampling then it would be really hard to get the right tempo unless you had a metronome going or something.
Edit: I really need to see more Digitakt clips. Erg.
no you’re right, 8 audio tracks n 8 midi tracks. separate.
the sequencer can play while sampling or resampling. you sample and then either press delete, save, or save and assign to a track. 1 button operation.
Just to confirm though, the audio tracks are where you are playing your samples in the sequencer right? The only reason I’m confused is because that’s what they call Midi tracks on the MPC.
The reason I assume this is because everyone is saying we haven’t seen midi mode, which I assume is solely for external midi. Sorry to repeat the question, lol.
yep, mpc is a little more complicated in that you have to select what type of track you want. dt has 8 audio tracks for playing samples and 8 midi tracks for external gear. they are hard wired.
Oops Thomann changed Live estimate from end of May to “not available”. Not good. Not at all.
I think Pretty much everywhere I spoke to here in the UK has been given 25th of this month to expect them now… DV247 quoted me 30th tho.
I guess they put unknown to avoid disappointment but I do expect them to be in the wild in Europe by month end.
A dev taljibg over on GS said he’s expect them to be here now, so there certainly on there way soon.