Movie recommendations

I last saw Dream Scenario in the theaters. Bawled my eyes out at the end but man what a great film. It was somewhat like seeing a more restrained version of Beau is Afraid.

Hoping to see the new Dune this Sunday. I feel like Dr Krieger in Archer reading everyone’s comments.

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Loved Dream Scenario! :heart::ok_hand:t3:

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Totally! :heart:

Looks like it’s coming to HBO Max in a few weeks. I’ll definitely catch it then. Nic Cage has been on a hot streak here recently

Watched Poor Things last night and… wow, thoroughly enjoyable. Absolutely hilarious too. Can see it being heavily shunned at the Oscar’s mind you.

And a big thumbs up for Dafoe’s very good Scottish accent. As authentic as Ruffalo’s English accent was silly (in a very good way :joy:)

Must check out the book now.

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On Dune‘s political angle — Spoilers

I read the whole series in my late 30s. I think @keygen.exe is def onto something. The prefaces of the books (written by Herbert‘s son) laud the „think for yourself, avoid the messiah! - core“ of the books, but the books themselves are nowhere near that clear cut on that theme. Yes Paul‘s Fremen kill billions in their holy war, but there‘s constantly the implication that Paul did what he could to choose the „lesser evil“ as indicated by his prescience. This notion is further deepened in Children of Dune and God Emporer, where Paul‘s son CONSCIOUSLY chooses the Golden Path and calls out his father for having been weak for not having gone all the way (which, the golden path also includes brutality, domination and suffering across 3000 years…and as the story unfolds we are implied over and over, that the God Emporer did the right thing for the evolution of the universe). I agree with keygen, Herbert was really into his Artreidis‘, any criticism that‘s launched in the books seems supersceded by his admiration for and attraction to his Atreidis characters….and Duncan Idaho in particular.

I‘m glad I read the books, especially the first one was a bit of a psychedelic trip, whereas the weak political angle of the other five books was mostly annoying and tainting my enjoyment of an otherwise interesting story.

@B_LD I’ve seen your message before you deleted it, and I wish you didn’t :slight_smile:

I’ll still try to explain why I LOVED it…

no spoilers but long text

I love sci fi, and there are few movies that let me immerse in the movie rather moving uncomfortably in a chair cringing at every predictable scene how it rolls out, I LOVED the first one even though I agreed with most of the criticism around it, while it was good there were too many parts that felt they are there “to please the studio”, but nonetheless it was way better then other movies like whatever Start Wars prequels are doing, Marvel stuff, etc., these are actually making me cringe about how predictable and even childish they are, Dune feels more like proper adult version of sci fi, but the first one felt like it’s for adults with supervision of the studio.
but listening to the director interviews I knew that while he proved himself in the past, the studio didn’t want to take risks and they capped the movie at a certain degree, and even with that cap I thoroughly enjoyed the first one.
the world building was insane, the storytelling felt mature, the score was kind of intrusive with the pipes bullshit but I accepted it because it still was miles ahead of anything I’ve seen recently.

the second one was, for me, wayyy more immersive, there are few movies that I don’t try breaking down every scene rather just watching the movie, and in the second part I just enjoyed the movie, sure there were parts that you might say “yeah I’m tired of these X scenes”, but I didn’t mind it, they were done in good taste and weren’t there to slap you with “so far we had no idea what to show you so here’s an epic scene of X just to satisfy you”, and after watching some docu about how it was done I’m blown away that there’s almost no CGI there, almost everything I thought it was CGI came up as clever filming and color processing techniques, which made me appreciate these scenes even more!

now the soundtrack and sound design in general, the first one did felt like the soundtrack was forced a bit to bring out the “epic feeling”, in the second one I didn’t feel the soundtrack AT ALL, it was all about the visuals and the individual sound design, I don’t remember any music taking over like the bag pipes of the first one, sure there were some recognizable sounds from the first but not in the same frequency or seeking for the same impact.

overall, I sat in theater for 3 hours, and when the movie ended I felt like I wanted to stay there for couple more hours watching more of it.
no movie did that for me for llloooong time.

so that’s why I loved the Dune part 2, and that’s why I can’t wait for part 3…

and sure, if you’re not immersed in the movie and try breaking down scenes, you might wonder what others seeing here, same way as I couldn’t stand Look Up, Leave The World Behind, 65, don’t get me started on the Marvels/Prequels, and many others that I couldn’t find myself immersing in the movie but just judging everything, so I totally get it, if that’s how you perceive the movie then it sucks, but I thoroughly enjoyed it and it felt comfortable enough to submerge.
and that’s rare for me. reeealy rare…

oh and a note about the CGI, watch some documentaries about the bare minimum CGI involved, it’s not bare minimum, it’s almost not there compared to other stuff.
and considering the size of the movie, that’s epic on it’s own!

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Wow. That’s what they call an extensive reply! :grin:

Much appreciated you took some time to answer my not-to-persist-post. Just didn’t want to get into any drag of discussion here… that’s why I revoked it.

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haha, I just was too busy to formulate a proper answer before you’ve deleted, but deep down watching some parts of the part 2 I knew some people would think “oh man are they not tired of doing that?”, but just to remind, these parts were there because they are in the book, and not because they are there to add element of “you paid for the ticket and I have no idea what to do so here’s a star exploding” or whatever lmao :smiley:

In my twenties I tried but wasn’t patient enough for the vast storytelling in the books and gave them away to a good friend. Maybe I should give them a chance again now. I’m more of a books guy these days I guess

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Here’s another recommendation that involves music and djs:

Party Girl. A very 90s movie!

Not a huge spoiler but my favorite scene is when she’s organizing Leo’d(a DJ) record collection according to Dewey decimal system :joy:

@hausland @alechko
I went ahead and started a thread just for the Dune novels. It’s a great discussion with interesting perspectives, so I thought it deserved its own thread. That way, we can let the movie thread be about movies.

All others interested in continuing the discussion on the Dune novels are welcome!

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I too watched Poor things last night and you summed it up perfectly! WOW!
I was very taken with the cinematography and score.
Couldn’t recommend it more and some genuine surprises and laugh out loud lines.
Going for American Fiction this evening and Past Lives tomorrow, completing this year’s Oscars “Best Film” category.
Poor Things has it for me at the moment closely followed by Zone of Interest, but as you rightly said, don’t think it’ll get a look in in Tinseltown. Emma Stone would be a worthy winner of Best Female Actor, but they won’t be able to stop themselves giving it to Lily Gladstone I reckon.

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Both excellent :+1:

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Yeah. Is a shame that was the only thing Scottish about it. Quite why they moved the primary setting from Glasgow to London is beyond me, and I do find it remarkable how little of any of the promo alludes to the book and its author. Don’t get me wrong, I thought the film was great. Just would have been nice if there was a bit more of a celebration of its origins.

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I saw ‘The Zone of Interest’ yesterday, and today I found out that it got two Oscars. I haven’t seen such a good movie in a long time. I love it when a movie stops simply being entertainment, but gives you a lot to think about. And this movie is like a punch in the gut, today I can’t stop thinking about it. This is the kind of movie that changes you internally. I didn’t expect it to make such an impression on me. Yesterday’s Oscars were most deserved. This movie is perfect, the cinematography, the script, the acting. But I’m also not surprised that it also got an Oscar for sound, because it’s a mastery of what was done in this movie.

I highly recommend it to anyone who likes uneasy movies.

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Saul Bass short from 84. I saw it the first time with a very high fever.

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I’ve been watching Reacher:

It gets good scores. Even at Rotten Tomatoes.

I don’t get it. It is avarage at best, but stupid.

Then I wattched a movie. A movie I’ve seen many times before. And it made me remember how I am supposed to be entertained by moving pictures. I had to, in order to fix my self up again:

Slow West:

It gets a lower score that Reacher. But I’m telling you. You are in for so much more of a treat!

Sorrry, I just had to get that off my chest!

Ps. And the music…

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i fully agree with your statement…

There are of course oddities within the universe and movie, but i rather chose to suspend disbelief then to latch onto to those minor nitpicks.

These Epics are a genre of their own and what i think Dune has done a lot better then any previous epic is that there is actually good acting. Sure there were lots of capable actors in Lord of the Rings, but i dont think Peter Jacksson has the chops to actually draw out good performances like Denis Vileneuve can.

The ending scenes between Paul and Chani are truly believable. Austin Butlers choice to have the same accent as Stellan Skarsgård (which was apparently Austin´s own artistic interpretation of the role) really cemented the fact that Harkkonens is a different alien race then say Atreides or Fremen. and its small things like that that really kept me in the movie.

Its not the best movie I’ve ever seen, but its definitely the best blockbuster I’ve ever seen.

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