Model:Cycles

Soooo, I had a very late evening down in my dear friend’s studio last night and took the new on Tuesday M:C. It’s the first time I’ve put it through monitors and I can only say WOW! It’s sounds fantastic! As @circuitghost and @J0n35y said earlier. It just sits so well in the mix. He has been a bit sniffy in the past about the MD and MnM in his set up and to his ears claiming it’s difficult to get it to sit in the mix and sounding good with his gear, but he was totally blown away with the ease and SPEED that i was coming up with some seriously pleasing and varied sounds. He’s promised me to Dropbox it to me today and I’ll upload late our final 10mins of our 6hour jam! I begged him to just record but he’s a funny old sausage and refuses to and set us a rather stifling time limit, as there were moments in the 6hours previous jamming that was quite simply some of the best sounding stuff I’ve ever created in 30 years of pissing about with hardware music production.
He’s actually ordering one this morning with is true testimony as he’s as tight as a gnat’s chuff!
I’M IN LOVE… IT’S A KEEPER!
CONGRATS HQ! YOU REALLY HAVE NAILED IT AGAIN! (sorry for shouting)

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This thing is going to sell faster than toilet paper in Australia

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Sometimes, caps really are warranted. Very cool experience you had there. Looking forward to hearing the results.

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I concur Doctor. I have drowned myself in gear of the last 10 years and consequently suffered with too much choice and ultimately, never really getting anything properly done, but this one piece has really gifted me my mojo back.
It’s a new dawn I tell you, sisters and brother, a new dawn!! :smile::smile::smile:

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Your experience sounds familiar to me, felt exactly the same after having played with the m:c with my main monitors. Something to this box that sounds really right.

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I think it is quite interesting that a number of us have all had very similar experience with M:C in a nutshell:

  1. First not convinced
  2. Getting past that
  3. Starting to enjoy it
  4. Noting how it sounds “right”
  5. Noting how much fun it is to use
  6. Noting how well it sounds thru monitors
  7. Now thinking about M:S too

Etc.

I do think it is quite a limited box, but within those limits there is actually quite a lot to explore/exploit, I think a lot of my favourite instruments fall into this scope.

Personally I have not got too deep with all the features yet, like sound and machine locks, I’m still very much finding my way around, I probably have about 4 hours of flying time under my belt with it since getting it and I have not really delved into the manual yet.

I had my reservations about Elektron going into the lower end of the market, and I really did not pay too much attention to M:S. I don’t think it helped that a lot of reviewers mention it is for beginners which kind of implies that it might be a bit less interesting to seasoned Elektron users, but on M:C at least I don’t find that to be the case.

TL:DR Trust In Elektron!

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Absolutely nailed it! That’s pretty much exactly my experience haha.
I had it in the back of my head that I might return within 30days for a DN but once I forgot about that an took the kid gloves off it really helped me get into the live aspects. Lots of fun.

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There’s definitely something going on inside this box, not sure if it’s some subtle limiting or compression or just the way the tracks interact, but it’s remarkable how sorted it sounds by default. It’s making up for my hopeless mixing skills. :joy:

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It was mentioned above and something I noticed in the Loopop video but I def think the EQ’ing of the machines plays an essential part in all of this. It’s almost like forced EQ that prevents a muddy mess. I’m all for it to be honest.

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In my head I’m approaching it as a drum machine in the same realm as the 808, good for laying down nice drums quick. the rest of the stuff is a tasty bonus.

I’m down to my last two rolls out here. not going to be happy if I have to wipe with leaves because of some paranoid preppers.

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I haven’t had heaps more game time with the unit thus far but so far I’m very happy with it as a sound generator, improvisation tool, sequencer and midi trigger, and very much appreciate the USB class compliance. iPhone with a USB dongle and videos record with the audio piped straight in - very handy.

U can really sense this Model way of working flowing up the chain - but it would be nice to see what more real estate would grant us. for instance it would be awesome to see attack as a knob, or at least as a sub control of env delay. I get the no attack thing tho, it really shoehorns it more as a groove box, and there’s work arounds obviously

there isn’t too much more I expect from it. whatever updates come in the form of extra features will be unexpected and appreciated. but I really like it as it is

and it’s weird that it does have some characteristics of a ‘module’, basically being able to just reach out and grab a control and move around, something about it. the comparisons to Plaits aren’t unwarranted

For me the device is really a euro addiction stopgap, a few hundred quid gets me something that will occupy me for months and keep the bank balance in check. for that reason alone I’m very content with it.

And also, I’m finding cheap gear very endearing from the point of view of, like, I spend a bit of cash, and get a lot of value for the dollar. To me, the other expensive Elektrons can often look like ways to sell something and make a quick couple grand back if desperate. But with a Model, whats a couple hundred bucks to sell it? In some ways the cheap gear is the easiest to keep, because u basically get very little back for it. Nothing a days work couldnt sort out.

I’m kinda into that at the moment. just a few cheap tools that can occupy me creatively and keep me exploring until another item gets added to the chain down the line

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Same here! It’s deliberately designed to evoke the same relationship as working with a TR-606, MC-202 etc… Simpler, direct instruments but with a depth that is larger than the sum of its parts. (Although the Cycles is a lot deeper than that stuff)

Like for example, some say that the MC-202 has “one sound”, but when you start finding little loop holes in that structure - for example the resonant filter keytracking, how intricate that is - it’s exciting and you also realize how each little exploit like that opens up a dimension of sound shaping possibilities that you didn’t notice at first.

Some tricks I love on the M:C is invoking noisy sounds by using the LFO at max rate with random on the pitch, that alone can break out of the very clean character of the unit. Pair that with the internal clipping used just right - it’s very interesting.

Also, the Chord for example has a very different world of sound, it’s inherently much softer due to the wavetables being made with additive synthesis - using that for stuff like Kicks, Hihats, percussion … It’s a lot of fun.

In simplicity I tend to find myself finding the most interesting solutions and that really aids my creativity, I personally like that sense of reward, paired with the immediacy of the instrument. It’s a good symbiosis I believe.

Anyway… I’m rambling. Glad you guys enjoy it, looking forward to what the Model:Cycles music will sound like a year down the road - I promise you that it will be completely different in sound. :slight_smile:

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Off-topic, but someone near me is selling one of these for an almost reasonable price, and I’m somewhat tempted…

It’s the chiptune mindset :metal: push everything until it seems like it can’t be pushed any further, then keep going.

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:cowboy_hat_face::+1:t3:

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@Ess this is very apparent and a testament to your success in taking this approach, I find it very refreshing and look forward to your future ideas for machines.
I think it was Richard James who once said something along the lines of working with dedicated task/timbre specific instruments where those are carefully curated VS working with an all-in-wonder box is analogous to building a hi-fi from separate components VS buying a off the shelf all in one system.
BTW that BD machine in particular puts you in the hall of fame in my book.

@J3RK said he’d like to see model:acid and I agreed that it would be great, the perfect antidote to all these unimaginative clones, maybe worth a thought, I reckon it would be popular and your take on it would be very interesting :wink:

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yea, the kick is sick :face_vomiting: :ok_hand:t4:

and yes, model:acid please :drooling_face:

Chosen Lords.

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It seems to become trend here, but I‘m also after simplifying things. less features

both models are great contender.
The roland boutiques are still tempting to me too. The sh01a and tb03. I know these sounds are old and overused but I realize that I‘m often after these actual sounds when I‘m creating a bass or lead on much deeper synths

the samples looks like a even more simplified version of what I liked about the DT.
I probably would still sell it again, due to too much overlap with the OT :see_no_evil:

Great synths though, and even go beyond the originals.

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This is kind of what I did. For the amount of time I have for music right now, the Digitone is a bit too complex. I have a ton of depth in my other gear, nice to have a jammable drum box to go with it.