I changed the thread title so it doesn’t just reflect the old V 10.7.5 update. People should feel free to talk about all things Logic Pro here 
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I think Logic is fantastic but does anyone else find this a pain when using 3 finger swipe on your trackpad to move knobs? If you use any plugin where the mouse cursor disappears when you turn a knob, when you stop turning the knob instead of instantly releasing the cursor like Bitwig, Logic holds it for a second, so you have to wait before moving the mouse cursor… sounds really minor but kills my sound design flow especially as this is super smooth in Bitwig… really wish this would be sorted.
OMG they’ve finally fixed the ‘Open Recent’ function. This has never worked for me through various versions, possibly because I store all my LP files on OneDrive….a common issue by all accounts.
Finally, 10.8 fixes it.
When you drag a plug-in into a different slot it opens that plug-in which is annoying as hell.
No idea why would they end up making it like that. Hopefully that changes at some point.
Settings→View→Mixer→uncheck “Open plug-in window on insertion”
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Thank you!!
Feeling pretty dumb rn but also relieved. 
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Never feel dumb about a menu option buried more than two levels deep 
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Hahaha
I missed that too but will happily uncheck that
I’ve seen this 10.8 update, and the £50-ish difference between upgrading to Live 12 and Logic (the forever buy of course) and I couldn’t resist. Lots to love about Live of course. But I’ve always had this slight hunch that maybe the linear structured workflow, rather than a modular sound designers dream might be what I’m after. When you’re releasing mastering assistants and crazy new samplers as new stock plugins, that’s a direction of travel that’s at least worth a trial for 3 months to see if it sticks. Need to get my head around setting up all the buss routings to have those returns setup first, which is of course auto done in Ableton. But yeah. I like what Logic are trying to do on top of what must be a pretty ancient code base to come up with a slick new set of DAW funtionality.
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i’ve only ever used logic so i was shocked to find out you have to pay to update ableton
that’s crazy lol
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…me and logic came a long way…together since version 2.0…
if i would have to deal with it today fresh from scratch, i’d go nuts…
still missing the emagic days, sometimes…those pre apple exclusive times, u know…
but 2019 i finally needed truu liquid audio again, my recording hw only phase came to an end, needed next level itb workflow, joined the bitwig cake and won’t look back…no matter how fancy logic, still coded in hamburg, but just for cupertino only, still catching up to berlin where ableton and bitwig are finding their kind of math…
I just updated to 10.8 …
Nice to see this thread here
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I just got an Arturia Keylab Essentials MK3, 61 key version, if anyone’s interested in how it works and operates with Logic.
I’m not into daws much and don’t know Logic all that well, but having said that, I’m starting to get somewhat fluent in it and first day experience with the Arturia is very nice. And getting to know Analog Labs is also a very refreshing experience.
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I’d love to hear your thoughts as you get to use it more 
I was looking at that same keyboard a few months back but decided my space only warranted 37 keys. Analag Labs was a big factor in singling that one out
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Dunno if this is gonna help, but I’ve been using Arturia’s MIDI Keyboards for a long time, now.
They usually go very well with Logic.
The build quality is always good - not great, but sturdy enough.
The main grip a lot of customers have with Arturia is the horrendous MIDI Center. Which is not the best of editors. It’s slow, a bit buggy at times, a bit of a ressource hog and a mess to work with.
Being an Analogue Lab user since its inception, I can vouch it is one of the best value gift to ever be bundled with a MIDI controller.
The refreshed UI (which is constantly being updated by Arturia) is getting better everytime.
Arturia MIDI controllers are usually great value for money - although their flagship KeyLab run is at times a bit complicated to fully use.
The key beds are nothing to write home about but are playable enough, pads (when available) are almost Akai-worthy, faders are fragile but have great travel.
Great keyboards for the price.
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I agree with every single word of this.
@Affectionate-Bee-781 I’d just echo what Heyes is saying here. The Logic integration works really well, and switching between synth tweaking, mixing and daw control is easy enough.
The build quality is all right, it’s not Novation or Native Instruments, but on the other hand, I also agree that Analog Labs is just outstanding. An outstanding collection of instruments and sure, you don’t get full access to all the tweaks, but with sixteen macros per patch, no one’s gonna tell me that you can’t go deep enough with sound design if you’re up for it.
I am really starting to click with Logic now. Funny enough, if I go daw, I think I’d be less interesting as a voice here writing something with hardware can be about average and people still go “oooh, that’s nice” - write it in a daw, and no one raises an eyebrow
Did give Ableton a go recently, and this time I got into it and managed to finish something in it.
Coming into Ableton late 2023, early 2024, that daw doesn’t make any sense to me. The very idea of working with clips makes things too structured for me and much of the music made in Ableton, has that “Oh, here comes that clip - oh, they turned off that clip now - oh, that’s the bridge where they muted those clips - and there’s them clips back again.”
I suppose I need to change address and get a new identity now after saying this.
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I bought Logic Pro the other day. Really digging the workflow of it.
Also when im just plugging in a simple midi keyboard, it just works without even configuring.
Coming from other daws, its refreshing.
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Wanted to chime in, seeing you go the DAW route lately.
I hope it’s gonna be both relevant to this thread and to you.
I’ve been using quite some DAWs over the year. I started with Fruity Loops (still, IMHO, the best DAW for beat makers and type beat production). Then switched to ProTools (by far, the undisputed audio tool standard). Then got around Ableton Live (which, to me, is perfect for live duties but a bit weird in the studio) and ended up choosing Logic over Cubase (at first for the price, but then, I got around the fact that Logic’s factory content is an incredible value). I use WaveLab extensively for all mastering duties (it’s just a perfect tool for mastering, and getting better each version).
But Logic has become my main creative/mixing environment ITB.
So much so that I often spend a day per month refining Templates and layouts. For instance, last month I saw you lurking around the LogicPro For iPad thread and thought « what the heck, let’s try and go gridless ». Tried to create some ambiant tunes with no grid and smart tempo. It was…well…it was quite something. I’m usually locked up to the project tempo, and Logic really made it easy to break off of tempo.
I still wish it had a better way to map MIDI controls. It’s a real hassle and a bit of a hit and miss at times.
And I do hope they keep refining some editing tools - although the Marquee tool is already everything you could hope for.
And I’m a big advocate for Apple to change the way they don’t allow you to route things properly. It’s a bit of an oddity that can cause many headaches when routing hardware.
I’m quite curious how you end up using it.
The iPad version feels like a great, stable beta at the moment. But the Mac version is a bit of an Everything package at the moment (a bit of ProTools, a bit of FL, a bit of Ableton, etc). And it is quite easy to handle at first (although you do need a bit of patience in the first hours).
I can’t wait to hear what you get out of it. And if you ever need any kind of advice, count me in!
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Thanks man. As always, appreciate your support
Actually, Logic on iPad provided an interesting gateway to better understanding Logic on the Mac. I really think the Mac version is the superior experience now that I’m understanding it better, though I have to hand it to Apple for doing a stellar job at getting Logic to work smoothly on the iPad as well.
One thing that I’m immediately wondering, which is part of the reason why Logic just wins for me over anything clip oriented, is the loops vs. linear sections. Seeing as the linear recording allows for easy duplication of even a shorter session, I don’t quite see the difference of just using that as opposed to mixing loops and track recordings.
I can see there’s a difference in workflow and preference, but not in actual end result. I can just knock out something in the track view, then duplicate it - since edits replicate throughout all duplicates, it really is exactly like looping, isn’t it? And I’m free to copy and paste if I instead prefer variations in edits before just looping duplicates.
The difference is just in the method, right?
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Yep. Took me an hour to figure out how to get Ableton to record midi, although it played it just fine.
I know, I’m not gonna keep slamming Ableton, it’s the king of daws and I just don’t get it and learn it before you smash it and so on.
But I just think it feels old or Logic makes me feel young. Yes. Perhaps that’s it.
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