Generate Midi Clock from Audio or Midi Notes

I just checked sending notes thru EPPlus, seems to work syncing MD with OT.
I use 3 trig counts per step, hence 12 notes per quarter note. Don’t know why it isn’t 24…

No, it doesn’t have midi clock. :smile:
I’d prefer a 2nd OT. :wink:

Btw your mixer is USB and you can mix LP16 16 tracks, that’s it ?

I use EPPlus and other midi processors for different experimental midi purposes, the most interesting being slice control IMO.

Midi Processors with Octatrack

Made another test from MD to OT, seems to work too, tacking account of MD note resolution limitation.

So apparently you also need 12 notes per quarter note with OT.

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Mhmm, i use a anlog mixer and the lp16 helps to be (while “jamming”/dub mixing) 100% independent from any computer.

I missed the 16 individual audio outputs. :wink:
Interesting, even if I think I’d still prefer a midi control approach with a midi controller, OT…

How many aux for fx ? What fx? :slight_smile:


2x Sends (one is the Antmix internal FX send, wich i only use as a second AUX send at the moment) Timeline & Digitech Polara

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Or El Capitan? :slight_smile:

Nice. I hope the trick with EPPlus will work!

Yes , sorry el capistan, had timeline before, but sold it for el capistan

Thnx!

Hi again! :slight_smile:

Now i`m coming back to this with a bit of time. I got a MIDI Solutions Event Processor Plus here and i already was successful with sending a “Transport start” signal.

But the other thing, “Timing Clock” is a bit tricky. So, this was, what was happening:

So, you wrote

" MIDI Sync) is a status byte (F8) that is sent 24 times per quarter note for note resolution ."

So, i understood that i have to put 24 notes in each quarter-note-segment, right?
So, i tried to do that in ableton… my song has 143 bpm and i got a wooble bpm on the octratrack (and digittone) around 120 bpm… 116, 124, 118, 120 bpm back and forth and so on.

I guess the problem is, that there es no “even” grid in ableton for dividing a quarter note step in to 24 even segments, right?

At the moment i don`t know how to do the next step.

I feel like i am really close, because transport and partly the midi-sync are working (at least, i see the clock of the octracktrack get`s changes, that is a good start, right?).

Maybe you or someone else have a hint for me? Would be great.

I really wonder why you couldn’t make it work. The keystep is quite capable of converting all kinds of analog sync signals/standards into a standard midi clock. Are you sure you have used the right kind of settings for your generated audio signal?

https://www.arturia.com/faq/keystep/keystep-how-to-synchronize-my-keystep-with-an-analog-clock

If it is not stable, I would analyse the audio coming from the LP16. Maybe the playback is unstable itself? Or the pulse levels are not high enough or just on the border of not being recognized by the keystep (so it missing some)?

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There is a reason why the MIDI standard has an own category for real time messages like clock. These messages are short (just one byte) and gets prioritized (being sent even in the middle of other multi-byte messages).

I don’t think what you try to accomplish by sending normal notes at a rate of 1/96th is stable enough to be used as clock signal. The simple fact that these messages are multi-bytes messages makes them already unstable to some degree.

Additionally: the piano roll of Ableton Live is here definitely the wrong tool. Any Max4Live device will do better (re-record the MIDI output of arppegiators, for example). Or even better: use a tracker instead of Ableton Live to produce that MIDI track.

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Hej, thanks for the reply! I really appreciate.

I possibly did a mistake when setting up keystep, i can not remember, but i think i wasn`t even in this option menu.

I think it is the best chance to try to get that working with the keystep again, because the midi solution thing is, taking your comment about it into account, not really promising.

I will try that next.

Yep. I also believe that the keystep “road” is the most promising one, especially because there are so many possible configurations.

Good luck! :four_leaf_clover:

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Hope it will work…

Hello guys!

Since I found myself facing the same problem, I’m very interested to see if a solution was found to it?

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To be honest my solution was buying a ERM Multiclock :sweat_smile:

FYI: I solved it simpler and mostly cheaper. Midi Solutions’ newer Footswitch controllers have tap tempo midi clock function that also can be driven by note on messages from the LP 16’s midi track.

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Okay, I have followed this discussion and found my solution. It was buying a Korg KAOSS PAD 3+. It can generate a MIDI Clock from Audio which can also be adjusted.
The only catch is that it is expensive and bulky. But it kind of works for me most of the time. Cheers.

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Hi Dokan
How are you using the LP-16 with the ERM Multiclock?
Is the midi file on the LP16 sending info to the ERM which then generates clock? Does it also send Start Stop Continue messages?
Thanks a lot!
Andrew

Hi Sluminoso

Good to hear you managed to solve this using the MS Footswitch.

How have you got this set up? Are you sending 24 midi notes per quarter to generate tap tempo? or just every beat? Does the Footswitch also send Start at the same time? How are you using it with the LP16?

I’m trying to sort out the same issue:
I have a Cymatic LP-16 and want to synchronise my external hardware, sequencers, arpeggiators, rhythm machines, with the audio being played from the LP-16.
I need the midi file to generate both clock and start/stop (pause/continue as well would be ideal)

Thanks a lot!