Yes, it lets you control all midi controllable parameters of the Octatrack. Check the manual, Appendix C1 Midi Control Reference for CC# of the parameters.
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Thanks!
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the MF twister is great. itās also plastic with rubbery bits, but feels really nice and solid. I personally like setting it up so that the knobs are super sensitive (for fast 0-127 throws), but pressing-and-twisting the knob will allow for fine adjustment
I like using mine to control mod wheel / BC inputs to the digitone:
Hi, just trying to get my head around this.
I have my uc4 controlling various OT parameters. Iām changing patterns using a drum pad connected to ableton, which sends prog changes to OT but getting nasty level jumps /cuts when changing parts.
Do you know if itās possible to send the cc61 send request on ableton sciences, so the OT effectively constantly stays the current state?
Does that make sense?
Be grateful if you could help, just programmed a live set and this is feckin the whole system!
Did you ever work this out, getting nasty parameter jumps everytime I change part?
Parts have completely different saved states that do not read from whatever part youāre switching from. No matter how fast you try to compensate, a part will always load with the levels previously saved. This is all track and parameter information. Is it possible to keep the part the same on your prog changes? Meaning, is there a way to use the same part rather than needing to switch? Are you switching over to a different set of machines?
As Iām typing this, Iām also thinking that you might mean, youāre getting jumps after changing parts, then using the UC4, and need to send CC61 before touching a knob or slider on the UC4? Iāve got CC61 assigned to an otherwise unused push function of a knobā¦ as soon as I switch to a new part, I hit it so that my UC4 knows to pick up the value rather than jump. Itās important that the OT MUST be playing rather than stopped in order to correctly receive CC61 and send out current parameter values.
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Hi thanks for getting back to me.
Sounds like what Iām trying to achieve is not possible.
Iām using the uc4 to control /mix live and when the parts change the levels do not correspond. I was hoping the cc 61 might match the parameters on part changes.
Unfortunately I need the parts, as I have various things sliced for different parts of arrangements.
Kinda stuck, as faderfox is basically redundant unless I can find a work around.
Cheers
CC61 will not tell the OT to change to a controllerās values. It tells the OT to relate all parameter values back out to a controller.
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OK thanks for the info, appreaciate the response.
Shame there is no work around with parts, also makes the faderfox a bit pointless for me, as I bought it to make transitions more fluid and in the moment live, rather than all automated. Frustrating.
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There are controllers that can send snapshots of all values. So OT would change to how values are set on the controller. Never tried that with my OT. Guess it should work, though.
A midi controller with endless rotary encoders and/or motor faders could send CC61 to imediately adjust its values to reflect the current state after you changed to a new part.
Potentiometers/faders canāt do that.
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This is what i do, and the best workaround.
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I have a faderfox Mx12 which does snapshots, works OK between songs/banks but need something to send which is ideally automated or when I hit my drum trigger when changing parts, so it is super quick and seamless.
Hoping to use uc4 live as smaller.
Wondered if there was a workaround to send the info from uc4 to OT via ableton but canāt seem to find a way.
Did manage to send the cc61 but seemed to just scramble a load of settings.
Thinking Iām going to have to reprogram my set with a single part, which is a shame, as really time consuming and makes OT less playable live.
Yeah, but there is now way a midi controller with potentiometers/faders could adjust its values over midi.
The pots/faders can only move if you move them.
If you want that, youād need a controller with endless rotary encoders and/or motor faders.
Behringer BCR2000/BCF2000, Midi Fighter Twister etc.
Behringer BCR2000 even can send out CC61 when you change a preset on the controller.
Thanksā¦ I donāt need the faders to match move to OT settings, I need the OT to match where my faders are on part change.
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Im looking to pick up 2 of these, a uc4 for the octatrack and maybe an ec4 for my virus. Basically just want to be sure its a good value before I go for it. I hate having to go into each track to make small adjustments or go into mix just to mute a track while im in midi mode so to have it all in a little device would be great.
I suppose for the virus I would need a midi merge to mix the octatrack and virus midi messages as well?
The EC4 can merge itās midi input with itās own messages.
So if you donāt want to use EC4 for the OT, you could go:
UC4 -> OT-in | OT-out -> EC4 -> VIRUS
Just saw the UC4 can do this as well, awesome!
IIRC all current production Faderfox controllers can merge?
*Edit, yes, they can.
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What is the difference between the relative mode and absolute mode? Is relative mode saying add 15 to the current value where absolute is saying set the value to be 15?
In that case, does it make more sense to have it in relative mode for things that are changing (i.e. controlling different synth patches) so that it doesnt jump and whatever the parameter is at will only be offset? I guess this doesnt make that much sense cause then it can only be changed up to a certain amount?
How would that work for controlling a synth thats not returning the current values? I dont want everything to jump when I turn an encoder after switching patches
Also trying to figure out, if I have an LFO from the octatrack on CC 91 going midi out->faderfox->Access virus.
How is this working? Is the LFO telling it exactly what values to be or is the virus just offsetting from its stored value?
And then how would that value on the Faderfox tie in? I guess this depends on the answer to my question above