Elektron Outbox 8

[dzyndzel]

If I understand correctly, it sounds like it is proprietary connection for the Elektrons (via Overbridge USB mode or a new mode) and for everything else, if it does that, probably dependent on how the source device outputs multichannel USB audio. Maybe there is software to do assignments for the latter, or maybe it just assigns one per channel the way it would on a computer etc.

[umonox]

Great Idea, but it should’ve been an In/Out-Device, rather than an Out-Device only. This unnecessarily limits it’s possible use-cases.

For example: I would love being able to hookup a lot of external Gear to a single Elektron Device. I dont have a Mixer, so i cannot benefit from physically separating the Outputs of a single Elektron Device. And with OB, this isnt even necessary as we have it all where we need it already - in the DAW. Having a way to configure this Device’s Outputs to Inputs would open up a world of possibilities to use Elektron Machines as a center Hub for every Dawless Session you can dream of. Right now it sadly looks like a missed opportunity to me.

[krunchr]

It’s awesome that Elektron now offers such addons. However, I’m rather team Inbox 8.

[dshipp]

The MAT 16x8 might work well for your use case too when it’s available.

[szzdz]

wow yeah, this is pretty crazy. he’s saying you can also output cv. can think of a million ways to use this with my modular + dn/a4

[SoundsAwful]

I’ve been wanting exactly this (ok, maybe more outs, but whatever) for a while now. Insta-buy. Thank you Elektron.

[3headedmonkey]

@dshipp

I asked what the Outbox8 latency was like and I was told it’s exactly the same as the device’s own stereo out. So if you record both the output from Outbox8 and the stereo out and compare the waveforms they would be perfectly sync’d. I was really surprised by this and if it’s the case I’m impressed. I double checked that I’d understood correctly on this point

I don’t have any proper knowledge about electronics, but did some digging on latency recently regarding RME’s Totalmix and external converters. And due to this it seems very much plausible to me that there will be only minimal latency if the Outbox8 is connected to the Elektron devices using a proprietary protocol. I can’t find the exact post in the RME forums right now, but Totalmix only needs a few samples for its routing duties. And a DAC doesn’t add much either, the Cirrus Logic DAC (CS4365) in the old Ferrofish Pulse 16 for example takes only 7.8 samples (0.1625 ms) according to their tech spec document.

[Dr.K]

@umonox

Great Idea, but it should’ve been an In/Out-Device, rather than an Out-Device only. This unnecessarily limits it’s possible use-cases.

I don’t think you can just easily turn every output into an input on a device.

[3headedmonkey]

@umonox

For example: I would love being able to hookup a lot of external Gear to a single Elektron Device. I dont have a Mixer, so i cannot benefit from physically separating the Outputs of a single Elektron Device. And with OB, this isnt even necessary as we have it all where we need it already - in the DAW. Having a way to configure this Device’s Outputs to Inputs would open up a world of possibilities to use Elektron Machines as a center Hub for every Dawless Session you can dream of. Right now it sadly looks like a missed opportunity to me.

I don’t think an Elektron box (apart from the Octatrack, I guess) would make a particularly good mixer. So I really don’t get this.

[Schnork]

Possibilty to route a stereo input through distortion or compressor or simply some send fx is always useful, isn’t it?

Or route tracks through analog filters (A4/AK and AH).

[dzyndzel]

Indeed. And to be honest, if it holds true this is preferable over class compliant multi audio USB out (e.g. without Overbridge) for me anyway.

Not to get off topic, but I have always felt like they could try to do parameter scene mixing over sysex a la Octatrack in a proprietary device & USB mode. Have attempted to do that over DIN MIDI or USB MIDI; it’s too much CC data in my experience and a bottleneck. This device is another step closer in that direction anyway.

[kokosnuss]

I am curious how did team Elektron use it at superbooth, how did they bus their devices?

[presteign]

Now all we need is the Keybox and we can finally build our own Digitone Keys!

[NoodleSoup]

hmmm… this sounds like a tasty weird device. Especially if it works with non-Elektron devices

[Phillip]

OGDT getting firmware update?

[moving_particles]

Definitely interested in this for my Tonverk, keen to learn more about the CV outputs.

[Riuozami]

Seems a cool idea but i don’t see any specific use case that would benefit my workflow

Maybe i misunderstood it

[jeffroman]

only devices that already implement class compliant multitrack. So it could do that for OP-1F or the SH-4D for instance.

[jeffroman]

Instead of inbox 8 they should just make tonverk and digitakt ii/any other future samplers have the audio hosting directly onboard to sample or independently route specific tracks like MPC’s do. Otherwise it’s just a shitty mixer.

[3headedmonkey]

@dzyndzel

ndeed. And to be honest, if it holds true this is preferable over class compliant multi audio USB out (e.g. without Overbridge) for me anyway.

I agree. The Outbox8 is certainly an insta-buy for me, even though I plan to have a go at using Overbridge at home when I’ve found the time to set up my new RME + Ferrofish combo. But depending on how stable Overbridge is in my particular setup, using the Outbox8 might be a preferable option even at home.

@dzyndzel

Not to get off topic, but I have always felt like they could try to do parameter scene mixing over sysex a la Octatrack in a proprietary device & USB mode. Have attempted to do that over DIN MIDI or USB MIDI; it’s too much CC data in my experience and a bottleneck. This device is another step closer in that direction anyway.

That probably depends how they transmit controller data in Overbridge. If they use something proprietary instead of MIDI there (like NI with some of their DJ controllers, iirc), something like that might be theoretically conceivable as well.