Looks damn sexy. Wish they did something like the TR-8 thought where it combines all sounds.
You can see yourself on the gearslutz rd-8 discussion that as soon as 2 people mentioned problems with midi in their rd-8, behringer employees joined the discussion asked for a firmware details.
Responed back promptly saying that midas manchester is working on a firmware update to resolve the bug.
For me that is a good customer service.
Good luck finding a roland employee or owner !!! on the forums talking with user what sort of machine do they want
Behringer/midas uk will solve the early midi hiccups in matter of days.
Roland will never sort out the problem that their machines are expensive, not analog and sounding not as goodā¦
Frankly Iām so utterly disappointed with Roland over recent years, that Iām just going to completely boycott them altogether. I had one Roland product which was a massive disappointment and gave me nothing but issues, and wonāt be getting any more.
And making Behringer change it to 8 from 808 is just fucking petty. People have been making 808 clones for decades. Roland had their chance.
Screw them.
~rant over~
Not sure how Behringer is going to get around using the sampled crash, ride and hi-hat sounds on the 909. Thereās no way Roland is gonna let that slide uncontested. May explain the delays.
As much as I agree wrt Rolandās latest, I do think that SE-02 is a decent product, enjoy using mine (aside from the 7bit parameter controls), They still come up with the goods at times. Not going to boycott if a suitable product fancies me
Yes, and they didnāt even design it, Studio Electronics did.
I am totally looking forward to the behringer 909. 2nd in line purchase for me.
To me mfb and others also clone the 909, but cost waaaaay more. I just donāt understand why behringer gets bashed for this. Itās a market run by businessmen. If they sell and make profit, looks like they are doing it right.
If this sounds 909 and the haptic is good it will be awesome.
Behringer will never sort out the problem that if Roland (moog, EDP, Korg, Sequential Circuits et al) didnt exist, then Behringer wouldnāt have any products to copy.
Expensive? You get what you pay for.
Not analogue? Who cares? That topic is as old as the OG transistors.
Dont sound as good? Totally subjective.
Itās more complicated.
How is that a problem? All of the companies you listed exist.
economies of scale counter your argument
I actually dont 100% care about the analog vs digital thing if it sounds good. but if the analog copy is good and even cheaper I am definately going that route.
I used to have the mindset of never buying behringer stuff. they have changed my mind on this with the stuff they are producing. I have an ada8200 as an adat extension for starters which I am quite happy with. all the monoās have not interested me, and I think there are too many from them in terms of relation to polyās or digitals.
If they get their QM on point, which I bet they are working towards, they will be unbeatable imo.
to me the term āyou get what you pay forā is off. that would mean expensive machines are completely bug free and of highest quality all around. this is not this way.
Iāve got to say as someone whoās owned the Roland originals, & has since owned a TR-8, TR-8S & TR-09, youāre talking utter BS - no offence.
the TR-09 was utterly indistinguishable from my old 909 - as far as I can remember - the only issue with it was the size ( although in some circumstances that was an advantage actually ) & the lack of separate analogue ouputs.
But if youād rather go with some shameless brand-stealing cheap-ass knock-off, just 'cos itās ANALOGUE then go for it !
each to his or her own.
I think Iād rather go with full size analog clone with analog outputs, than mini-sized VA clone with no analog outputs. Especially since the price is same.
Why should I care if it says Roland or Behringer in the cover?
VA or not is almost non-relevant. The size and the outs though, yeah, sure. I canāt tweak a TR-09 with ease. Iām still not sure about the need for RD-8 and RD-9 thoughā¦ the TR-8S does the trick and so much moreā¦
Well sure, TR-8S is surely a good drum machine, but costs two times more than RD-8 and is still VA.
YMMV, but there are still reasons to go for analog instead of VA in my opinion, especially when it comes to something like TR-808 where slight changes in the sound make it sound more lively.
Of course, even samples are good enough for many people so there are no wrong choices really, just use what works for you.
Love my RD 8 and I canāt wait to get an RD 9 to add to the stable. That said Iāve been using my synths for creating drum sounds recentlyā¦wonāt stop me from lusting after an RD 9 tho.
Whatās your problem matey?
On a crusade against behringer?
I love that brand and their products ! long live Uli
I prefer analogue as I can hear the difference to lifeless digital ā¦
You get what you pay for - yeah, you pay for logo, some people are big into known logos and are prepared to pay big timeā¦ not me
Guyās itās tools, use what is best for you and carry on making beats not arguments
Not trying to have a go at you, just wondering how this statement would hold up in a double blind test.
If somebody sends me an RD-8, iĀ“ll do the test! Through an older analog mixer, so everything has done one pass through something analog. hehe.