AI generated art

Very cool! Although I think it’s a bit rude for you not to share the artist responsible, personally :wink:

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some of the services hosting GPU access filter (quite rightly) some words and don’t want people using it for images that might taint the product/service/brand.
so i don’t wanna get the artist in trouble.

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Aaaah I see! Ok fair enough, if your images violate TOS then I totally understand :slight_smile:

i’m not violating anything. i just create abstract weirdo pics, whereas most people use prompts that are more generic.

makes me think of a character from something like total recall or similar…a mix between weird and spooky kinda feeling

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that’s a big thing i’ve been thinking. is this art? (yawn! stick with me…)

messing around with this has really got me thinking abstractly about the future of music production and art in general.

how long before your daw suggests that you are trying to make garage track and auto generates 50 audio loops from it’s trained library spanning decades of influence, with opportunity to extrapolate and vary results until you hear something you want and press yes, next. seems in the next few years.

will music creation become a chain of artificially generated ideas you refine and cherry pick and call your own? undoubtedly this will create entertaining new forms as the data is mashed together without a clear direction of right and wrong. and if an audience has emotional responses then hard to argue it’s not communicative. but the process has no need or awareness for communication, we impose it. as we do for human creations, but a (human) artists driving force is communication. i’m trying to work out what is that difference and does that mean in future there’ll be two schools of art, augmented and organic?

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It’s a conversation we will no doubt be having a lot over the coming years, in several fields!

It involves the collaboration of a person, and often it’s in that collaboration and curation that the art is formed. I don’t see this as any different than creating a collage or snapping a photograph. I mean you didn’t make the mountains.

What will be interesting is in finding ways for deep collaboration. But I think that if we can will an image into existence using the same parameters that we’d use to paint it then it’s just a form of gate keeping to suggest it’s not real art. It’s still a form of expression, just created using a different medium.

Edit: Think of it as a role reversal. Where as artists we’re used to identifying a subject and recreating it, we have the opportunity to have something recreate a subject we create.

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Here are a bunch of my collaborations with AI:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CViyhr0ji3E

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWjB3OPjx_O

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXzOyBtDMdw

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CYFOSsLD5GY

https://www.instagram.com/p/CE9lMOaDosf

https://www.instagram.com/p/CE9TKKADmtR

https://www.instagram.com/p/CE9EeToDOi2

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David Croenenberg have anything to do with this?! :joy:

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that’s an option i think…

and that’s another one in there :smiley:

it’s something that could happen maybe in the nearest future? computers still need trained before being able to generate an outcome, being it music or images; we’ve been training computer for a while now and i think it’s a bit like for us humanz, the more you train the more you get better at one thing, one major difference being though, that we might take longer to train in a specific thing, super computers will (and do already) take less time.
it’s a bit like space simulations and other things where time and processing power are a limitation to us, not the machines. we train them now, later they might be able to train themselves and won’t need an initial input

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Lovely! I have a follow coming your way

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example:

i really like this. it was made purely with the prompt cyborg_frog_cartoon_adventure_on_titan

s got shades of 70s sci fi novel covers with more recent logo cartoon influences on frog. a striking blend and detail in the background makes me tell a story in my mind.

but should i take pride in something i waited a few seconds too manifest?

dave was not mentioned in the prompt for that one

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Maybe pride is the wrong word, but you can certainly derive satisfaction from it. Somewhere between the role of artist and audience.

Besides pride is a bedfellow of ego - as artists such things distract us.

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i think my post might be a bit OT, but your comment flicked a spark in me.

The music i make now doesn´t really mean anything to me. i´ve felt this for many years, i dont really care for my music, i just make it and enjoy making it and at times i enjoy listening to it as well. I cared deeply for the music i did in my 20´s, it was shit, but it was my shit and that meant something to me.
I have written it off as me getting older, getting kids etc. my true passion and fire residing in my family now for instance. but maybe, just maybe using tools like MI Marbles or the master transpose of the OP-Z etc, tools which makes it super convenient and fast to generate songs, makes my passion and flame quench.

Does it make me unattached to the things im creating because deep down i feel like they´re not my creations? a question to ponder for sure

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Are you in the Music Theory thread? This could bring a new angle to that debate :laughing:

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i have not, just checked it and you kind of hit the nail on the head with this comment.

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…are those and any other tools a necessity or rather something to make things easier so that one can produce more rapidly and share with others? what’s the real necessity (if any) behind this?

speaking from my own perspective… its laziness.
i really don´t have a problem with sitting down and learning new things (and i´m decent at music theory), its just that when i sit down with my synths its usually night time, im pretty tired from work, chores, family etc. and just want to blow off some steam. the sad thing is that i long for going more into detail with my creations and i have the means to do it, but the energy/fire is´nt there… i take shortcut´s instead and the results are that i feel unattached to what i make…

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Mine are a bit dark lol

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I’ve been doing lately “material” experiments with AI. Here are some of my recent results (made with MidJourney) that I’ve found interesting:

I think many people are very focused on how AI generated art looks or sounds, but I think the most interesting question is how this will change EVERYTHING in the world. These narrow AI systems are like associative mirrors that reflect back things that we might associate with the original subject. So in essence, these AI tools are like I Ching. They reflect back something and we humans finish the creation of meaning. But I’m sure that eventually we will see an AI that can actually create and evaluate meanings on its own. And it’s very hard to even imagine what that could mean culturally.

My short time working with AI and GAN systems has given me a good punch in the guts, because now I finally understand why AI is such a hot topic. The impact of AI will go so much beyond art and culture that I’ve been literally losing my sleep. I feel like I’m watching the humankind invent electricity or internet in a fast-paced timelapse movie. We are living a very very interesting time in human history!

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