Even with the new beta Clyphx pro doesn’t work now.
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No, I know the difference between two. I didn’t see the “dot” before meaning didn’t see it on the track number like in the screenshot. Otherwise, I see it all the time in any parameter I automate (filter cutoff, gain etc. ). Looks like I really did the mute/unmute by accident when I was automating something else.
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Is there anyone here in the Live 12 Beta who would be willing to test out what I believe to be a bug? I’ve logged it with Ableton and experienced it in multiple 12.1 betas but it still persists. It’s not an area I have much experience in though so I’m open to the possibility that it’s just user error or ignorance on my part.
In the release notes for the 12.1 beta it mentions that “The parameters in MIDI Tools are now MIDI mappable”. However, whenever I try and map the encoders of my Push 3 (in user mode) to the MIDI Tools, either Transform or Generate, most of the parameters don’t change fluidly with the twist of an encoder. For example, with the Seed Generator I can correctly map MinPitch and MaxPitch. However, all other parameters under the Seed Generator don’t map correctly (i.e. Duration, Velocity, Voices and Density). Those values just jump between 2 numbers or don’t change at all.
Anyway, I’d love to hear about anyone else’s experience to determine if it’s really a bug. Thanks!
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I know with many Max patches values are pretty stepped and sometimes binary. If you try to automate these parameters with manual curves can you get more granular?
Just a quick shoutout to 2 Ableton finds (if you can call them that) over the last few weeks.
First is a template. Which seems an odd thing to be buying, but actually this one surprised me. It’s set up for ambient music from what I can tell, but it married pretty quickly with my own approach for bussing tracks down. It has some nice gain staging basically to keep you on track when making a rough mix.
But what I really like about this is that it has some interesting effects in it. Most of these are just standard device presets for things like delays, reverbs, EQ curves. But they’re really well considered, including some use of the standard old reverb which opened my mind to what can be done with that. It’s $10.
The second has been a revelation. It always seemed cool when Ableton added interesting devices like Color Limiter and Channel EQ, with a clear nod back to analogue gear. But MonoMono takes that a whole bunch further. The guy is/was a graphic designer, which really shines through.
Their first set are pretty classic inspired pieces that maybe Ableton could have built in themsleves. It comes with a pultec style push/pull EQ, an LA-2A/Opto style compressor and a vintage tape device. I know it’s a small thing, but these aren’t loose M4L devices, they install as a proper pack, which always makes me feel a tad more confident that these devices will be around for a bit.
There is a second set of devices out there from MonoMono, which appears to be more flavours of the same thing, but I haven’t gotten round to checking those out.
I’m noticing a fair few new devices coming through with better interfaces and some interesting missing tricks from Live. This is on top of like likes of Fors etc, who already excel here.
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The video that goes with that template…
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Thanks for your suggestion. Forgive me if I’m wrong though, but doesn’t automation only apply to the arranger with recorded midi? I’m trying to map the new Midi Tools (Generator/Transform) to the Push encoders to then change the values in realtime in order to quickly come up with new ideas. I admit I haven’t done much with automation though so I could be misunderstanding.
I think he’s just making a suggestion of creating automation curves, in the arranger, or a clip, to check the resolution of the function you’re trying to automate. If you try and draw automation curves, and they turn out equally “steppy” when you draw them as when you change them via the mapped encoders, it’s an issue with the resolution of the device itself, not the input from the encoders on the push 3.
If the other is true, smooth lines from hand drawn automation, steppy using the encoders, points to an issue with the push 3,or how the device interprets the signal coming from MIDI.
If this kind of flies over your head, that is very understandable, it’s an annoyingly hard topic, barely understand it myself after trying for years.
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home depot and lowes sell these for like $40 or something… but they have dimmer switches so they buzz loudly when turned on. if you can find an old one that has simple on off switch that’s the way to go. ikea sells a bunch of ‘gooseneck’ type lamps like that though that are LEDs w/o dimmers.
thus ends my lamp post. live 12 or something.
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Noticed this development over in the beta testers bit…
Sequencers by Ableton is a collection of creative MIDI sequencers made in Max for Live.
StepArp is an evolution of a classic device first found in the max for live essentials pack many years ago. It is a Step-based arpeggiator.
Rhythmic Steps is a Step Sequencer designed to work well with Drum Racks. Its core strength is in the ability to create ever-changing polyrhythms via an intuitive and simple user interface.
SQ is inspired bye classic hardware sequencers and offers stepped control over Pitch, Octave, Velocity, Length, Time Shift, Ratchet, Condition.
Hadn’t got the beta on my machine, but I’m intrigued by this for sure.
Not bad for a casual Friday drop & run!
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Thank you! Yes that is what I was attempting to convey.
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Maybe a dumb question, but just wanted a bit of quick clarification. So, I’m assuming these are new sequencers included with Live 12.1, right? Not some sort of (perhaps older or unrelated) 3rd party creation?
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Anyone using Ableton 12 beta know if it’s taking advantage of Apple silicon efficiency cores yet?
I believe (though this is from memory) that they have no plans currently to make Live use the efficiency cores at the moment. Of course it will be interesting to see whether Apple reduce the efficiency cores even more. I imagine that would be just as much of a challenge to DAWs as the switch to Apple sillicon itself. However, there are also rumours that they may beef them up again (as always you never know with Apple.) At this point though, I imagine that they’ll find a way to make a 4 core Pro processor outperform a 10 core Pro processer.
I just popped it open and these look completely new to me. It looks like it dropped into the beta group just a few hours ago, so literally they came on the scene today. Looking forward to jumping in and learning more about what they do. Sequencers are one of the most needed additions to Live imo, so seeing some (admittedly Max) additions is good. Maybe a run up to an official sequencer in Live 12 maybe?!
Rhythmic steps looks the closest to the thing a lot of people have been asking for - a multitrack sequencer that you can sequence 1-4 pads in a drum rack. The other 2 are mono versions on a theme that we’ve somewhat seen before.
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100% agree. Thanks for the info!
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They are M4L devices, but created by Ableton and should be included in future versions of Live is they pass the “beta test”.
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Aren’t some of them also just included in supplementary “packs” over bundles?
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Quick shot of the drum rack one. Hope this one makes it to a full release. It’s a step sequencer where you have control over 4 pads in a drum rack (on the left), but you can make it play from another pad (selectable) by running the second row of notes alongside - label “alt” at the top. Has shades of a cut down version of Seqund about it. Just beig able to quickly put in a roll is very useful. All randomisable too.
Mostly messing with RS here, but here’s the other 2 if anyone is interested…
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Thank you for the expanded explanation. That’s very helpful information to know about automation. Also thank you @thermionic for the initial suggestion. It sounds like a clever way to troubleshoot. I’ll give it a go the next time I get a chance!
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