A second new machine? [Analog Rytm launch, January 2014]

a friend suggested me that maybe they don´t have the faceplate ready

The faceplate is ready. What’s inside that box is 99.9% of how it will look like when it hits the streets.

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a friend suggested me that maybe they don´t have the faceplate ready[/quote]
that wouldn’t preclude them from telling us what it is, what it does, etc.

a friend suggested me that maybe they don´t have the faceplate ready[/quote]
that wouldn’t preclude them from telling us what it is, what it does, etc.[/quote]
We’ve got to save something, right?

a friend suggested me that maybe they don´t have the faceplate ready[/quote]
that wouldn’t preclude them from telling us what it is, what it does, etc.[/quote]
We’ve got to save something, right?[/quote]

hehe, I suppose so. It’s an effective technique. I’ve got my savings on hold until I know what it is :slight_smile:

[quote=“” Jon""]

[quote=“BloopityDoopity”][quote=“anselmi”][quote=“154”]I must admit, the whole night of the machines not revealing the machine but keeping it in a box is a bit childish, but I suspect deadlines weren’t met, loads of stress, a new OS, keys, they prob had no choice. :slight_smile:
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a friend suggested me that maybe they don´t have the faceplate ready[/quote]
that wouldn’t preclude them from telling us what it is, what it does, etc.[/quote]
We’ve got to save something, right?[/quote]
Save something for what? A product release event seems like the logical place to me.

Dude, really, in both threads?[/quote]

dude, the new machine is being discussed in both threads, dude. dude. personally i don’t see the need for discussing the new machine in it’s own thread dude since the other thread has more dudes and seems to cover the whole topic dude, but dude - seriously, dude, that’s just the way it is dude and so dude you’ll have to forgive me dude for the cross pollenation dude because dude… DUDE… it can’t be helped dude. really dude.
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Someone got defensive for being called out on comment spam… [/quote]
someone’s displaying classic signs of projection because they were called out on naive & wishful thinking. (you)[/quote]
Sorry you must be confused. I desire sample playback ability in a analog drum machine. If you re-read my original post here you will see I’m not after anything complex… i specifically said basic stuff. You seem to be deluded thinking I want the OT squashed into an analog drum machine.
re; sample import into tempest. When I purchased the tempest I was led to believe this was on the road map. It was discussed like it was a software update away in the future - correct. It was never a definitive factor in my tempest purchase btw - I wanted it purely for the analog sound. However, that was a few years ago now and many people, including myself would like to see a truely next gen drum machine. I’m hoping this next announcement is what I hope. Otherwise I’ll likely get an analog keys - which BTW competes DIRECTLY with the a4… so there goes your theory.

No it doesn’t. It’s quite that bit bigger, and more expensive - obvs. It’s more of a ‘big brother’ or ‘A4 MegaDeluxeExtremeCombo’ than a competitor. And it fits in with the well established Elektron MO to which I referred. It’s analogous to the sfx-6.

Not to mention, with it’s 4 voice limitation, people are already talking about ADDING it to an A4 for 8 elektron sequenced analog voices, albeit not directly linked. So my “sound capitalist reasoning dictates the provision of multiple products that cover disparate functions and don’t cannibalise each other too aggressively” theory still stands strong and mighty like the Great Basin bristlecone pine - bask in it’s glory.

No it doesn’t. It’s quite that bit bigger, and more expensive - obvs. It’s more of a ‘big brother’ or ‘A4 MegaDeluxeExtremeCombo’ than a competitor. And it fits in with the well established Elektron MO to which I referred. It’s analogous to the sfx-6.

Not to mention, with it’s 4 voice limitation, people are already talking about ADDING it to an A4 for 8 elektron sequenced analog voices, albeit not directly linked. So my “sound capitalist reasoning dictates the provision of multiple products that cover disparate functions and don’t cannibalise each other too aggressively” theory still stands strong and mighty like the Great Basin bristlecone pine - bask in it’s glory.[/quote]
Actually no - you are incorrect. Again. OF COURSE it competes directly with the A4. What planet are you on. Yes - you can add additional machines - A4 if you wish for more voices… so what.
"They sell dedicated machines for each aspect, and are very very careful not to provide too much of one unit’s functionality in another. "

My guess is that at least 90% of the functionality of the Analog Keys machine will be available in the A4 Machine.

a friend suggested me that maybe they don´t have the faceplate ready[/quote]
that wouldn’t preclude them from telling us what it is, what it does, etc.[/quote]
We’ve got to save something, right?[/quote]
Yeah, I guess so - but a few clues about form factor and what type of machine it is won’t go amiss right? :imp:

No it doesn’t. It’s quite that bit bigger, and more expensive - obvs. It’s more of a ‘big brother’ or ‘A4 MegaDeluxeExtremeCombo’ than a competitor. And it fits in with the well established Elektron MO to which I referred. It’s analogous to the sfx-6.

Not to mention, with it’s 4 voice limitation, people are already talking about ADDING it to an A4 for 8 elektron sequenced analog voices, albeit not directly linked. So my “sound capitalist reasoning dictates the provision of multiple products that cover disparate functions and don’t cannibalise each other too aggressively” theory still stands strong and mighty like the Great Basin bristlecone pine - bask in it’s glory.[/quote]
Actually no - you are incorrect. Again. OF COURSE it competes directly with the A4. What planet are you on. Yes - you can add additional machines - A4 if you wish for more voices… so what.
"They sell dedicated machines for each aspect, and are very very careful not to provide too much of one unit’s functionality in another. "

My guess is that at least 90% of the functionality of the Analog Keys machine will be available in the A4 Machine.
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It depends on the price point. I’m wondering what the premium is for the Keyboard version is? I don’t know what the difference in price between the MnM desktop and keyboard was?

If it’s too close, yeah, it’ll be a bit too competitive. But, it fit’s a bit more expensive, it’s not going to compete with the A4 as much. That makes sense only in perceived value, not in actual tech specs.

They’ve added the keyboard and the individual outs (how are the effects dealt with?). But, I wonder what else got stripped in the process? Not much, from what I’ve read. So, I’m guessing a not-inconsiderable price difference (+$400 USD?).

I mean, it’s not like the mopho and the mopho keyboard, which added a TON of knobs.

a friend suggested me that maybe they don´t have the faceplate ready[/quote]
that wouldn’t preclude them from telling us what it is, what it does, etc.[/quote]
We’ve got to save something, right?[/quote]
why save anything? and save it until when exactly?

I kinda enjoy the hype and the discussion of what’s coming. It’s kinda fun.

But, yeah, this model of marketing is pretty tedious to people who just want to get work done.

Too bad there isn’t a good middle ground. :confused:

There seems to 2 rows totaling 8 flashy flashy lights moving from left to right and then in a differing order. Maybe Elektron are taking queue from MN’s Rene, with its various sequencing modes. Then there is the standard 16 steps across the bottom. Not sure why the change in LED colours, maybe they’re taking queue from NI or perhaps the sequencing is layered, some sort of cross modulation thing. Display screen looks pretty big.

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Agreed, here’s my thoughts which I posted in the other speculation thread. Mega apologies in advance for also posting it here, in the dedicated mystery-machine thread:

between the intermittent camera jitter and the imperfect loop of the video… it’s hard to put my finger on exactly what’s happening. the lights definitely have the trajectory of the traditional 16 steps though I’m not sure we see it complete a full cycle. you’re right about the 8 steps looping, though I can’t tell if it’s 8 leds above the 16 step lane or if it’s the second set of 8 on the 16 step trajectory.

in more speculative thinking, i notice the main display screen isn’t the ‘traditional’ red of the machinedrum. there’s also a static led in the top left corner, like the silverfaced elektron machines.

the multi-coloured leds flashing on the left, seems reasonable to assume they’re individual sounds being triggered by the sequencer. but - I wonder if they’ll be soft pads with embedded leds like the buttons on a monome/push/launchpad. or if they’re just leds to represent different voices…

at any rate I’m hoping for strong sequencing capabilities if not a dedicated sequencer that covers both midi & cv.

all this thought & speculation from some blurry LEDS … this type of marketing is evil!

IElektron ;o) or:

whack new waveform drum machine, built in see thru bullitproof glass - the whole face of it being a user configurable touch screen, different sequencer types (in collaboration with TE), and at the same time sports Midi ports enough to be the center of an allElektron setup, and plock the crap out of all the others… Only question is if it takes polaroids of the crowd automatically?

Now hurry TFU with that analogue drum machine…

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I’m still intrigued by the frosted box, and the placement of the lights. There’s obviously a sequencer going, but there seems to be at least another two quite big lights on the machine. Maybe it’s just something that gets magnified through the glass, but anyways. My bet is still on a drum machine.

Speculation of a new drum machine in “that” box or could it be some add-on/expansion for the A4K (to sit at the empty right-end)? :joy:

My guess is a machine ending sales of Tempest.