Wishes for Ableton Push 3 and Live 10

[Jukka]

This doesn’t smell as being a legit leak. Just look at the quality of the image, is this anything like what might come from a product development team. It isn’t even in the category of believable to me. Plus read all the qualifiers ask.audio puts around this, they don’t believe it’s legit either.

Ableton is certainly capable of doing a standalone controller, and they might well have a prototype in the works. It almost certainly has been discussed in a design meeting there. But Ableton is also a lot more capable of doing a leak — and this ain’t it.

ADDED: Ableton has given official notice — THIS IS A FAKE !
Big demerits to ask.audio, for giving this the light of day, when they knew it was false, and to the wanna be cozy-bear whoever that is, for constructing this disinformation in the first place.

[og_tea_boi]

Audio ins look too close to the top to be real. Could be wrong.

[AdamJay]

@phelios

A standalone version would only work with a very basic and stripped down version of Ableton. Maybe Drum Rack, Sampler and their onboard synths. But Ableton is so much more and all of that could never be done without a computer. I say that both from the workflow and CPU power.

So, kinda like Maschine+, then.
Can’t run nearly the variety of the company’s own instruments, definitely no third party stuff, might as well plug into the computer.

Still, i’m interested you see what a Push 3 can do. I’d prefer the pads take up less real estate, if they’re shooting for standalone.

[J0n35y]

Yeah looks ropey to me too. The left edge just looks wrong!

But, a push with built in audio interface would tick a box for me. Don’t care about standalone personally. lm a little surprised we haven’t seen Ableton roll out a push 2 with audio I/O to sit alongside the current model already to be honest. Run with both to give users the option.

[Seta]

As macs are moving to ARM cpu’s I would like ableton to wait for ARM Ableton to be ready before releasing a standalone unit. Maybe an ARM based Push 3 standalone could run on batteries, something maschine + can not do. Give it midi and cv outs and I am totally in…

[garf]

bad at photoshop? put a noise filter over the whole image!

midi ports and volume knob are lifted from the machine mk3 image, pasted onto a rejigged Push 2 image.

after copy-pasting these bits onto the image:

[AdamJay]

Well done, @garf!
You will be rewarded with one sizzling sausage for your efforts.

Those MIDI ports were definitely lazily pasted. It’s much more clear now.

[garf]

heh… the ports were also stretched a bit - they’re oval.
dude doesnt know the shift key while resizing

[AdamJay]

Wait , didn’t Adobe change it?
You don’t have to use shift now, maybe that was the issue. They used the 2020 version like it was 2019.

Hopefully actual Push 3 is way cooler.

[phelios]

What a relief! My wish for Push 3 is a version with 2 rows of displays and 16 knobs and without the pads.

[Ryan]

I desperately want hard clicks buttons like on NI hardware over the squishy buttons on the Push 2.

Personally I’d prefer 4-6 rows of pads(Preferably 4) over the 8 Just to bring the sound design capabilities closer to me/hardware sound design specific unit without the pads.

[evpat]

I wouldn’t be too stoked with a stand-alone Push 3 tbh, would rather a different kind of controller to go along my Push 2 and further developments in Live 10.

Live 10 is only on version 1.18 so I feel like there’s a lot of room for it to grow. 9.5 was huge and came with the release of Push 2 so maybe over the next year or two we will see a major point update with hardware.

Pipedream: With MPE struggling to get out of its toddler stage, Ableton still not supporting it and Roli shitting the bed, I think there is a real opportunity for them to bring a great piece of proprietary MPE hardware to the market along with support as part of a major point update. But that might be too keen of me. Excited for their future regardless, Live has never been smoother for me.

[mattleaf]

The possibility of what Push 3 could be really excites me. Ableton has had a long time to produce it. Relative to Push 1, 2 was quite a quick revision and really slicked up the first release.

They have so much nailed and refined already in Push 2, from the graphics, to the workflow. So much headway already achieved.

A 3 would certainly be a refinement, I wonder if being in Ableton world where everything is in banks of 8, if it were to have I/O then would 8 ins make sense?

The thing is for a while Push really focused on Sampling, sampling workflow, sampling culture. But the thing can’t sample.

This background context I think will determine a lot - if it’s a sampling machine, maybe two ins is fine, hot jack as needed. If it’s more of a studio tool - then a more elaborate audio interface would make sense.
But like the new M+, I dunno how much sense a standalone tool makes without a battery.

Another route is being more of a portable Ableton Effects and Instrument beast. More of a virtual context. In this case 2 or 4 ins.

I would LOVE a portable, backpackable, battery powered, 16 pads Push with onboard Ableton fx and instruments. Heck I’d say the outs are more important than the Ins. Give us 6 outs - main, cue and fx send.

Jam your life away on your sweet vacation or sabbatical, come back home and plug it into Live, and every session is ready to mix and produce.

Ahhh… one can dream.

ps: I would love the menu buttons to be more of tap - capacitive touch style weight. Just light to the touch. Move quickly

[handed]

Two things I really hope they fix with Push 3:

1. Clicky buttons, not squishy - Elektron style would be best
2. Instant visual feedback! The latency on the display is annoyingly long

[Ryan]

Heck yes, my brother! Clicky Button Team!

[Jigs]

I’ve only very recently started using the Push 2 again after looking for unused bits of gear to sell for new bikes, switched it on to try and lost 2 days with a big creative spell then used it a lot since and it’s been very productive for me.

What I would really like from a new Push is a more lightweight model for using on my knee. The 2 really starts to dig into my legs after a while and I have to keep changing positions to maintain the blood flow in my legs. I did love the weight when it was perched on a stand upstairs, but I prefer to be more flexible now using it whenever the urge takes me on the couch in the living room.

Also, for all the buttons this has, I barely use a third of them. Different profiles for different uses would suit a wider range of users.

Ableton is at times driving me nuts with the Push though. I’ve been sampling some tunes off the laptop and it’s looping fine on the Push when I mark the start and end points, but as soon as I record it to a clip it stops looping properly.

I’ve tried warp on/off, bar count on/off, adjusting tempo, fine tuning chops, checking the grid start and end points are bang on etc, playing a different note to trigger the loop, checking loop length, s start, s loop length etc. I can’t work out the problem. A simple task on any other sampler, but not always on this it seems. Push forces you to chop files as midi rather than audio, so looks like a fixed Abe calculated warp too.

Anyone had, or know what’s causing this issue?

[AdamJay]

@Ryan

Personally I’d prefer 4-6 rows of pads(Preferably 4) over the 8 Just to bring the sound design capabilities closer to me/hardware sound design specific unit without the pads.

That’s the thing I don’t like about these pad controllers.
Why is there a field of pads below the small screens?
Surely there’s some creative design opportunities that allow for encoders/pots/screens to be below, with the pads above, perhaps on a raised plane, or side by side ala MPC/Rytm/SP16.
Really what I want is an SP-16 formatted Push 3 standalone with battery power.

[Tajnost]

Starting to get bored and decided to nerco post here…

So what do you think, will we ever see it?

I would so much adore compact push 3 travel edition with stereo in/out, max 16 trax, some internal plugins like operator, analog, drum racks, play samples from disk…

Otherwise maybe soon we see ipad with m2 processor and osx…

[Portray]

Does someone think that Ableton will release Push 3 soon or is it unlikely due to chip shortages?

I am about to buy a Push 2 but it would be bad if they release Push 3 soon if I buy one.

[alexbuga]

They were looking for an embedded hardware engineer a few years ago. I was also hoping for a standalone device, but we got a lot in the recent years so I forgot about theM D: