What is it Digtakt does better then Tonverk? What is it Digitakt can that Tonverk can’t?
it can fit in a digitakt case.
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Slicing, time stretching
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overbridge.
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um the dt2 has 16 tracks instead of 8 (but the tonverk has subtracks so technically it has more)
dt2 has pattern mutes
dt2 has a slice machine and can kind of do time stretching
it’s like $500 cheaper
dt2 has overbridge
dt2 is probably easier and more intuitive to use
other than that, now that the bugs are fixed- tonverk kind of blows it out of the water and my digis are on the chopping block as i begin to hover over the “add to cart” button for a tonverk
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DT2 is better for beatmaking based on rhythmic samples.
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I’m waffling still on which elektron sampler to buy but I’m thinking toneverk because of the much higher limit on number of parameter locks. I assume at least time stretching will be added and maybe slicing. There might be a way to time stretch with the new grainer?
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It’s likely to remain to be generally more responsive due to the respective hardware platforms
Not everybody is mad for poly, so having mono tracks may not be such a disadvantage - but the TV has more strings to its bow - DT has more discrete audio tracks which can be useful
DT is tried and tested and is very robust by now (moreso DT1) … it’s a bit more focussed and immediate imho
but ymmv as ever
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I sold Digitakt for Tonverk. Only thing I miss is the bit of extra money I spent.
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Because it runs tight when MIDI slaved to other machines.
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The sample management / preset management is more robust on the DT. Any kind of rhythm-based endeavour — kits, slicing —quality of life things like sample zoom, page loops, generative rhythmic stuff like the stochastic sequencer, etc etc
Tonverk is an interesting box but man, it’s still half baked. Hopefully the next couple of updates can sand off the all rough edges and lessen its maddening limitations. EG individual bus send levels for subtracks would go a long way towards mitigating them all sharing the same bus, and should have minimal processing overhead.
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They’re totally different machines, even though they’re pretty similar.
At the end of the day, it’s a matter of taste (and maybe also a question of budget) when you have to decide between the two devices.
If I had nothing and was starting from scratch, I’d choose the DT2:
solid, quick to use, all channels are the same, fewer options (yes, that’s a positive feature!), sounds great, no major problems known.
16 tracks is more than enough. It runs very stably and reliably. The learning curve is pretty flat. (compared to TV)
You put samples in, and music that sounds like those samples comes out.
You can play around with the effects: slicing, reverse, basic effects.
That’s it.
Tonverk is a sound monster. You can lose yourself in the sound. You put a sample in, and something completely different comes out. Wall of sound. The effect loops are part of the synth engine itself.
Basically 8 DT1 in one: Use 8 complete drum tracks in one track. Create loops yourself instead of sampling them—and they remain dynamic.
Sorry, I can’t give you any advice—I have both and would buy both again… I also have an AR—a completely different league, still great and somehow better than anything else in its own way. Elektron has a knack for designing devices so differently that you think you need (almost) all of them—each one is better than all the others in certain areas.
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I haven’t owned a Digitakt but I have owned or still have AR2, A4mk2, DN, DN2, OT2 and AHFX and Tonverk is the best thing they’ve ever made as far as my experience goes. It’s not even close 
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I own TV, considered DTII. If you prefer mono samples, prefer the slice machines, don’t care about the extra bells and whistles that TV brings, then DTII seems an excellent choice for being direct and more straightforward. Tonverk also has those 4 additional MIDI tracks which are nice if you want the Elektron sequencer in poly form to use with other gear, without giving up audio tracks.
I need to test this but looking at it, I’m wondering if the granular machine is now in effect a slicer. This could be one of the ways TV invites you to work in a different way to a typical sampler. There were ways of slicing before but I need to have a play to see if it works as I’m thinking it might. The demo seems to show it rhythmically moving through a sample at random, which could be useful in some contexts. It’s not sample slicing like on DTII though.
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Totally different philosophies and workflows. Think of that instead of spreadsheets:
Looking for a sampler to mainly play your trusted drum samples, maybe sequence a mono synth or load some loops? And skip onboard FX because you can record all of it into your DAW with individual dry tracks? → save yourself some money, desk space and learning time and get a DT.
Want to record some sounds or multi samples to play them polyphinically and then go down a rabbit hole of transforming these sounds with complex FX routings or granular? And don’t mind recording all of that with only three stereo outputs and mostly work within that one machine? → TV might be your thing, if you don’t intend to use it as MIDI slave.
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Simplicity is the main selling point of Digitakt. However I am thinking the same thing - with the Digitakt 2 price that close to Tonverk it just doesn’t make that much sense to get one right now. At the same time I really don’t have use for the extra buses and stuff on the Tonverk. It’s cool but for me having a few solid insert effects already does enough most of the time. It’s just that the arps and polyphony are cool features and more sample time per project. I do think they will eventually add limited polyphony to DT2 but you might need to sacrifice tracks for that - TV will remain the main polysampler for sure. Well, for now I’m not getting either one but it’s interesting to see how these develop
DT (&ST) are the only devices I haven’t owned and I keep seeing it suggested that DT2 is the one for drums but TV is hands down the most fun and effective drum device I’ve ever had, as well as all the other tricks it has going on.
You can basically do all the same things for drums and much more with TV. Basically the only thing missing is Overbridge. The downside is that I can imagine it being quite easy to get lost fooling around with the extra stuff - I’m happy with starting with Digi for this reason
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DT2 looks much cooler… I’m gonna go and look at mine now…
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You sure? They’re pretty great when you want that sort of thing 