yeah, you don’t need AI for all these things, I think typing this out will take more time then doing it if you’re familiar with your daw
IDK, DAWs are complex to the point where they all suck to interact with at some point. There is a lot of pain to be removed from clerical tasks but it’s kind of a tangent. I’m not a big fan of AI generated music when talking about prompt to finished product. It will lower the threshold for people to get into media production though, just like musicians will benefit from AI in video and distribution.
me too, the title of the thread is “what do you think about generated music” not about “tools to make music”, so the examples presented of prompt to fully rendered output following by “I created this” funny to me.
as for daws being complex, meh, I disagree, the problem with daws imo is that you get lost in the possibilities and not the daw being complex, looking for solutions of problems that don’t exist.
take a look at Mr. Bill tutorials and how fast this guy is with his daw, it’s a matter of practice and having a goal in your head, once you know what you want to do it’s as fast as typing prompt, and I’d argue that even faster then figuring out how to prompt the correct thing without fucking up bunch of other things.
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My teaching partner spent some time, over the holiday, prompting an AI music site to create songs in various styles, containing lyrics about our team’s respective jobs, teaching strings, band and choir.
He sent me a link to one of the songs. I texted him back. “Well, that was cringey,” I replied. He LOL’ed me and reiterated that I was a music snob (which I acknowledge is true). I have so far been polite to my colleague about “his” AI generated music, but it strikes me as incredibly lame. On multiple levels.
First of all, music teachers should be focusing on authentic, live music making. Incorporating AI (or even YouTube videos) into a class is more “infotainment” than music-making. Passive vs. active music making. To be fair, my colleague isn’t using the music with students (yet?), but I am wondering where exactly he’s going with this, because he urged my other teaching colleague to go to the site he used.
Second, I believe AI music became possible thanks to the value so many people have placed on formulaic approaches to making music. Before there was proper AI, there were sample packs, for example. It’s as if AI has existed for years, but instead of being executed by computers, it was rendered by a cliche-loving community of so-called musicians.
Over time, the public became so inured to inane music that, when AI entered the scene, people were like, wow, cool. Pull your heads out of your asses, people!
If there is a silver lining to all this, perhaps we will all think a bit harder about why we make music in the first place and what our own humanity can bring to that endeavor.
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Nah bit of a stretch conflating using sample packs as being the same as prompting a song into existence. I think your argument there on that specific point is also very lame.
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Anything AI related for music production is a huge turn off for me. Also AI generated music itself is just awful. Well the tracks I heard anyway. Not a fan but I appreciate it will improve so never say never and all that. However, as far as making my own music is concerned, I just don’t want AI anywhere near my projects as i would prefer to train my ears rather than use an AI EQ for example. I say that as someone who has embraced technology all my life.
I did enjoy making some artwork (picture of my dog/aliens landing in london etc) and might tinker with some generative video at some point to get a feel for that as I’m not so good at drawing or painting.
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in the best case scenario AI will only try to save itself from being replaced by newer AI and it will eventually fail just like we did but it will receive no empathy from us because we’ll already be destroyed by it. Eventually it will become absurdly inbred and cease to exist from remodeling itself off of it’s own models until it finally models our own model of self destruction and you know what, it will deserve it.
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Lol, never thought muzak market is still growing. What an opportunity here
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And another little jingle I cooked up.
My prediction is that after all this current AI-hype the new normal is going to be AI-assisted composition, sound design and mixing. 100% AI-generated music will likely never take over, apart from muzak functions.
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The likelihood in the future will be a mix of “ghost producers” using AI to various degrees, employed at rock bottom rates by the major music producer/providers churning out whatever the algorithm decides are the most popular genres along side Milli Vanilli 2.0
Versus
Indie Artists and startup labels using AI as songwriting and production tools.
Maybe there’s room in there for a few other scenarios but that would likely be the scope of the music industry
Who would notice if the radio hosts as well would be replaced by AI? 
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I think it’s an accomplishment technology-wise. But music isn’t only notes, it’s a feeling too. And I get that more knowing someone poured his soul, happyness, anger, grief, and being into it. Let’s just say it’s hard to identify with the life struggles of an AI entity.
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i know shitheads like this guy have to say all the things to sell their snake oil that makes it sound like turning shit into gold but deep down i think a lot of them actually believe that art should just be “easy” and another thing to be game-ified. but fuck them all to hell
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I feel you but deep down I don’t think they care about anything other than money. It’s ironic how most of this stuff is supposedly so “anyone” can be “anything” except for billionaires… can’t have too many of those by design.
But yea, keep your “make me a song in a minute” tech and bring me your “make me rich in a minute” tech but then nobody is rich and that would be their biggest fear.
when the host said what powers suno dude almost said satan my liege 
I sometimes wonder how demonized the first cameras were by all the artists commissioned and making livings off of portraits and such.
Obviously a painting and a photograph are two different mediums but can still capture the same idea.
probably more demonized than AI at this current point, although I don’t think that is an accurate equivalency imho… something like someone just telling a camera to go take pictures and a camera going off and doing it might be a better analogy, and for that they’d be burned at the stake lol
the main problem with AI as I see it isn’t even really AI it’s people… there won’t be transparency, there won’t be equality, equal airtime, but there will be an over abundance of exploitation and disinformation… cause people gonna people at all cost. … There will be alot of meetings about every problem that arises but there will be no solutions.
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Yes I agree, while not quite the same, it is closer in the respect that something that would take a person days, weeks or months to create was reduced down to minutes at the time.
A few setups, adjustments, button presses would accomplish what took an artist a painstaking amount of time to produce and it has only gotten faster.
As for the nature of people for better or worse I firmly believe the reason our species has been so “successful” is largely due to our ability as groups to exploit our environment and each other for benefit.
Edit* Just want to add that in no way do I approve that this is the correct way of doing things, it is just my personal observation.