What do you think about AI generated music?

I see one potentially good case for the AI: spoken word generation and samples interpolation. Copyright issues are imminent with most of the sampled material, do it could an elegant workaround. Speeches, voices, etc. Really impressed with voices by NotebookLM

Because the guy that posted it is taking the piss.

It’s a cover of one of his songs, in a very different style to the original, which is kind of the joke.

Help me…

I kinda like it though… sounds like whatever I hear when I’m drunk.

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weak…

AI copyright claimed my own video

Is that an Ai generated podcast? :man_facepalming:

Lol

I think a lot of more recent AI generated music is pretty bad, but there have been some great works made with it over the years.

Actress (famed Elektron user) started putting out music made with a machine-learning program trained on his own back catalogue in 2018. There’s some details here and here. It’s beautiful stuff and sounds totally in keeping with his other work.

He called the AI version of himself AZD, and his later album called AZD has this incredible cover which I always interpreted as referring to the process of composing alongside an AI:

Emptyset did a similar thing in 2019, an album using machine learning trained on their own back catalogue. There’s an interview about it here. Again, great album.

I think Lee Gamble’s EP Models does something different, using generative AI music tools to create samples that he then built tunes with. Not sure about all of it, but She’s Not is incredible:

Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhursts installation at The Serpentine showing at the moment is amazing too:

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Cool interview with Plaid where they talk about the AI tools they use to create music

Fun to see them mention using Magenta Studio, which is a collection of m4l AI midi tools which got me started with generative AI tools back in 2019 too. I’d totally forgotten about it

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I created these in 10 seconds each. I couldnt do this in one month lol. Yes the future is here.

You didn’t create anything.

All you did was ask an algorithm to create some sort of aggregate of stuff that already exists.

And that’s exactly what it sounds like. Fucking elevator music.

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Ironic, but still too big to be ignored.

Let’s dump any who-to guides for setting up AI agents that prompt other AI’s to create music then distributes it via multiple AI artist identities here. Sounds like a hoot. Ironic again.

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Aha. You have to create the correct Prompts so you are wrong there. It has been debated a lot but without the Prompts you are correct. Get the prompts wrong and its crap often. Checkout the sculpture communities. AI has taken over and even the traditionilists admit it. They quote the Prompts as well as keeping the creativity side of things.

Its called progress.

I prompted my local pizza place to make me a pizza, am I a chef? did I create the pizza?

just because you prompted doesn’t mean you created anything

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Consumption is not the same as creativity.

Consumption is the enemy of creativity.

Also, this isn’t really AI, is it.

There’s plenty of examples just above your post of people using machine learning and generative tools creatively and with excellent results.

Prompt based consumer bait isn’t it.

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Won’t you welcome a prompt window in your DAW? The art of making music won’t disappear because we get better software tools, especially on this HW forum. Music has always been a hard business to make a living in and it seems like that won’t change.

prompt of what? “make this loop sound better”?

in what world making music = prompt for a finished output? the examples given in that post are nowhere near making anything, it’s a render of a statistically generated material, so where’s the creating part?

and btw I’ve seen some gamer streamers on twitch going like “my wife and I made a song for the holidays” and puts on some fully rendered piece, so where exactly the “we created” part in that?

I think this meme needs an update

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If you’re using stuff like suno, you are a consumer. You are consuming a product, not creating art.

That’s not to say that there isn’t a place in art for AI and generative tools, but like I said, using stuff like suno doesn’t make you an artist. At best you’re a curator, but that’s just dressing up consumer in pretty language really.

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You don’t have to tell it to reduce your track to finished muzak. Any operation could be done with a bit of imagination. “check for unused plugins in all tracks and deactivate them.” “present similar sounding samples as this drum kit but add tube distortion using my favorited plugins. auto-level all samples as I go through them.”