Most interesting bit of the Oora video was when he first loaded the percussion loop and applied the granular engine to give it all those ghost hits. Then he washed it in reverb and ruined it. But that moment of rhythmic possibility was very intriguing. UI looks fantastic. Sample loading times and seemingly hardly any restrictions on sample length were also very impressive. Having said all this, I still think the GR-MEGA is the superior machine (as it should be considering the price differences between the two). Thereās just something that looks so tactile about that crossfader. I remember when I first fell in love with the older GR-1 when Loopop loaded up a loop of four chords from some classical piece and then moved back and forth through the chords at will with the crossfader 
you could make a rack of this machine mapped to any controller in a night or two. would take some tinkering for sure but youād never run out of mappable parameters etc. a lot of the hardware appeal is the boundary, so I donāt know if it would fully appeal here but if you want the reverb room size tied to a knob itās a couple clicks and youāre done.
oora drenches everything in reverb, Iām shocked
sorry but that demo is terrible but I guess it would sell to succulent leaning generative ambient crowd
look Oora is my brother and so are you donāt make me come over there 
the S4 on the other hand I think will need a bit of pondering
now Iām off to check that out
oh that oneā¦ I just canāt grok the form factor , damn it would be sweet if it was like the size of the dreadbox Hypnosis fx box
Just relistened to the Loopop video. It wasnāt classical. It was some synth sequence. But picking out textures and āmelodiesā within the loop with the crossfader (which is on the left!) was great.
Anyway, off topic. Iāll wait til the S-4 is more fully formed before making a decision. Right now, itās full of possibilities and I wish them the best with it.
Man, love Oora. He does a great job way more often than not. Didnāt like this video at all, Iām afraid, though I still think the S-4 has tons of promise, and I donāt care that many of the features are āstill to come.ā Thatās kind of exciting actually. . Itās like getting free gifts at various times, assuming this is as useful straight out of the gate as it appears it might be.
Maybe I need to rewatch the video. All I got from it was maybe I should wait until both it and the Tasty Chips GR Mega are both released to compare. Of course the GR M is like twice as expensive.
As awesome as Oora is, he really loves āthatā sound which is lovely, but makes it tough to figure out my own use case sometimes
Thatās exactly what qualify him more as an artist rather than a āreviewerā to me. And loving his signature sound I, once again, feel into the trap of buying the same stuff he loves and ended up pre-ordering the S4 straight after the video ended.
Iām trying to justify the S4 to myself as a more capable and versatile replacement for a Microcosm, that is now finally headed towards the chopping block, after months of pondering about.
Wait and see what kind of different workflows will emerge after the first batch goes out
Iām still interested in getting one in a near future. More now after watching their last video.
Great to finally see some of the capabilityās of this new product!
Whilst the video leans heavily into Ooraās sound, it also shows that this box does a lot and the workflow looks fantastic. Itās also interesting to see that theyāve left a lot of scope for enhancement over time.
I held off on the pre-order but Iāll be pulling the trigger shortly.
same!
me like it so far it fits my needs. gonna pre order for sure
Ooraās video was great!
showed me what was hoping to see (minus the remaining features), so Iām happy about that.
Was thinking about some of the comments here about Ooraās sound and that it wasnāt an effective way to demonstrate the S-4ā¦
Iāve thought this on other vidoes/demos of gear (and VTS etc) and it has occurred to me that there might be some utility in creating a āStandard Audio Demo Packā of sounds (and maybe some midi) that people could use to give a new piece of gear (or software) a good workout - much like the benchmark tests one might use for GPUs etc
it would be helpful also for times when the reviews/demos donāt contain the kinds of sounds that some people are interested in.
Since it seems like you can run one track into another, I guess youād just use one track for reverb and delay, and the next track for drive.
Given the routing options, you might also be able to feed a track back into itself for distorted fun.
The classic shoegaze sound right there.
But overall, this design, screen graphics and specs, gives us a glimpse into what a new generation of Elektron might and should look like, and why it should eventually evolve to stay relevant.
ā¦ on the other hand, is evolving still relevant in 2024? Maybe weād be better off de-volving 
I definitely agree, though I would say that itās not so much about relevance but just allowing the instrument to reach its full potential in the hands of the users. Interface really matters, I think itās a big part of why we choose hardware over just plugins or apps.
Iāve been studying the Oora vid some more and thinking about how the UI/UX compares to the Octatrack, thereās obviously various aspects missing on the S-4 in comparison such as a sequencer and crossfader, theyāre both aimed at somewhat different use cases.
But I have to say that in terms of just a track with a source signal going through an FX chain and modulated by LFOs that the S-4 is the clear winner on the UI and modulation front. Aside from the clever visual feedback I think one of the best things it does is use dedicated buttons for each track modulator that allows you to immediately assign multiple destinations to parameters in their own context. So you can apply movement to things without having to move to an entirely different page.
This just seems to be an obviously superior way to deal with LFOs in an Elektron-like workflow now that Iāve seen it on the S-4. Hopefully they and other manufacturers take notice.
It was interesting to note in the Oora vid how changing the source sample in a heavily modulated track kind of didnāt make that much difference to the sound, when the modulation is extensively used it becomes the dominant part of the patchās character.
For creating moving and generative ambient or textural soundscapes this thing seems excellent. You could easily just have this, a field recorder, and a little keyboard and make albums upon albums of cool ambient music all day. Seems like you might need a sequencer of some kind or a DAW if you want to build more detailed compositions, though Iām not sure what the perform functionality is, maybe thatās still to be added in the firmware. Itās almost kind of a shame that it doesnāt have a little integrated keyboard, and in general I canāt help feeling like it could do with being a bit bigger and having a few more built in controls and inputs.
Iām looking forward to seeing more peopleās use cases for it outside of lovely meandering texture loops. Iād love to see someone using it mostly as a polyphonic synth, and Iād also be interested in how it works in a tempo synced industrial techno sort of context too, someone like Blush Response for example could give it a good workout I bet.
This having a sequencer would be ideal, but pairing it with T-1 makes sense.
Offers a ton of possiblities.
Price is steep for mostly potential, even though I appreciate what they are trying to do.
am I right there is no amp/filter envelopes?