I really like how you can visualize the modulation on screen, they came up with really nice graphics to depict what’s happening and how your choices in the Mod section change what you’re hearing.
I think it’s a lovely device. Obviously still some work to be done to get it in its final form, but I also would commend Torso for keeping the panel and workflow flexible enough to accommodate future developments.
Yeah the visuals are clever. The drive and crush screen for example is really interesting in that you can see at a glance what the 8 or so parameters are doing by looking at the pattern. That’s a good use of screen real estate and something I think more manufacturers could do, essentially visualisation of a macro state.
@your_lamp@GurtTractor that’s what struck me the most too, how you interface with it. Really nice visual feedback digitally and an intuitive physical layout. Love me some good UX
I’d still be really interested to see the manual for the MIDI implementation chart. If it’s very complete and allows you to control mostly everything via a controller like what the OT does then I would be quite interested.
The video was positive for me. About what I expected when I preordered. I think people are turned off by the style of sounds it’s been shown to create, and I can understand why, but I can also see past that into what I would do with it, and I’m excited about the possibilities.
I would still like to see the manual, but I’m not regretting my preorder so far.
I don’t know of anything comparable on the market.
I also love the fact that it can handle longer recordings and pull them up pretty seamlessly which a lot of devices struggle with.
Of course you can just crank up the delay, granular and reverb and get into those sort of soundscapes you can find with almost any granular device but it seems to be much more than that.
People complain about the price but it’s about half the price of the gr-1 mega or an Octatrack for that matter.
Also think simply as a sampler without all the granular washed out stuff it’s very capable and stands apart from most samplers on the market.
It reminds me of a mashup between a granular based modular setup, op-1 tape, and some of the sound manipulation stuff u can get from an Octatrack
All in all I’m stoked. I find the I can do this stuff on my computer iPad stuff pretty funny because can’t u pretty much replicate any hardware thing on a computer? Lol
As someone who says this a lot… I find the large touchscreen experience of an iPad Pro quite different from the keyboard/trackpad experience of my laptops, and competitive with many digital standalone devices. I’m still buying hardware, but it has to better that experience, which is a high but not impossible bar.
essentially it’s twofold: 1. you can’t really go buy it and have it delivered in a few days time which is the case with most samplers on the market; 2. almost every second feature will be implemented at some point in the future so there is a unique perspective of discovery to be had Seriously tho, looks like free & live interplay and inter-modulation across four tracks between seemingly every element and parameter is promising and different compared to other ca. 1000 euro tools? I hope
It looks very interesting, lovely design, will be far from feature complete on release. Thank you early adopters, it looks like it will be great in late 2024 or 2025.
What sampler on the market can live loop 4 tracks with seemingly no time constraints, can resample and has a granular engine (which can also play polyphonically). That has all the modulation capabilities. And the ability to use all those efx simultaneously
I think one of the biggest things I’m hyped about is being able to use longer samples/loops.
Even on the Octatrack I believe u get max like 5 mins of a recording buffer. Which is great and plenty, but I like to resample long stretches of a recording, and then resample again potentially.
I think this device easily separates itself from any mpc/sp/elektron and even most modular gear.
I think the closest u can get to a device like this is probably in eurorack but then again euro would be much more expensive and the workflow would be much different
What I think I saw in that video is that the pitch changes for different but simultaneous notes are created by changing playback rate. From a processing point of view, this makes sense, as pitch shifting while keeping length constant is expensive. From a musical point of view… not so sure. Sometimes it will work, sometimes higher “notes” will fade out too fast.
Yeah, there were times during the video when I’d think about how I might recreate the same effects in Eurorack, but pretty soon I realized there’s too much in the S-4 to reasonably patch up — especially when you consider how the parts are integrated together, and how there are 4 tracks of all of them.
This same thinking applies to Elektron stuff — you can find Eurorack modules that seem to emulate the same functionality, but when you consider how all the parts fit together and how they’re all integrated with the sequencer for easy p-locking, you’d need mountain of Eurorack to even come close.
I’d love some more insight from you granular sampler folks on how Granulator III (and Ableton’s capabilities to layer, build racks, control via Push, etc.) compares to the Torso S-4. Obviously, I understand one is dedicated and focused hardware vs open-ended software, but still… I’m intrigued by the comparison.