Toraiz is calling

Prints · September 17, 2016, 2:40pm

I actually bought an Electribe 2 Sampler right before the Toraiz. I was really into it too; I liked it a lot. It had one flaw though that made it totally unusable for me; samples automatically stop playing when patterns change (ending abruptly if the sample length goes past the max bar length of 4). I was so upset about this. Their customer support said they had no plans to address this issue. Useless.

Prints · September 17, 2016, 2:42pm

Also, all types of bad sounding clicks and glitchiness when using insert effects and changing patterns on the Korg ES2

MichalHo · September 17, 2016, 2:43pm

Yes, there was a workaround for that. Something along the lines of putting the release of the sample on a pad in the next pattern. But that is not cool, agreed.

Still have my electribe grey box (dont need the sampler bc OT) and will keep it.

Prints · September 17, 2016, 2:46pm

These Korg Electribe 2’s weren’t designed with the concept of a song utilizing more than one pattern. What the hell Korg??

Ryan · September 17, 2016, 3:13pm

Depends on your philosophy of samples and where in the eq your hearts at. I am a big fan of samples, and I like glitchier things so in that same situation I’d go with the OT no questions asked.

AR is a low end beast, and you can make really thick sounding percussion on it. It would be difficult to replace. However, it’s sample handling(by design, no doubt) is merely just spice than substance. The AR provides a fantastic function, and I appreciate it functionally but I, personally, can’t fall in love with it at the time being. It feels limited in its capabilities compared to the OT.

It depends on your philosophy of sound/music, so I can see why you’d love it. I merely just appreciate it(except for the trig conditions which equates to magic for a percussive instrument)

Anfim · September 17, 2016, 3:14pm

OK, not much else to say on the matter then. Hope to read a proper review from you once you’re over the honeymoon period. I wonder if the touchscreen will continue to be responsive in a sweaty gig situation.

Prints · September 17, 2016, 3:51pm

Found my first bug. Sample “Save & Replace” function is not working. Have to save changes made to samples as new sample with new sample name every time. Other than that, sampling is a breeze.

Prints · September 17, 2016, 4:02pm

Holy cow, I got a response from someone at Pioneer a minute after posting

alfred · September 17, 2016, 6:23pm

I’ve read in the Pioneer FAQ that the Toraiz doesn’t render audio. You have to use the analog outs to record it. I wonder if “it doesn’t render audio” also means that it doesn’t resample? Can you use the analog filters to process a sample? Do you have to patch the output back to the input for that?

CallOffTheVote · September 17, 2016, 6:49pm

Pretty sure if resamples but yeah I think for post filter you need to use a cable.

VDB · September 17, 2016, 8:09pm

No sample layering?
That is the most important feature to me in my MPC 1000! The ability to layer and velocity switch drum sounds on each pads.

nirun · September 17, 2016, 8:57pm

yikes no multi touch on the screen? the limited sample playback probably because pioneer wants you to buy a CDJ for longer loops

sounds like regular pioneer shenanigans releasing small updated versions of their hardware every couple of years. no interest in supporting them

Prints · September 17, 2016, 9:54pm

Yep. Big bad Pioneer is full of shenanigans. Don’t let their evil bright screen and flashy buttons corrupt you lol

Prints · September 17, 2016, 9:59pm

How insulting of Pioneer to create such a thing. I feel personally insulted lol

Prints · September 17, 2016, 9:57pm

I’m trying to understand people’s thought processes

Prints · September 17, 2016, 10:01pm

All this talk about multitouch. Why do you want multitouch? What the hell are you going to do with it? What isn’t efficient enough on the Toraiz that could use multitouch to improve it?

Why would you even offer an opinion without knowing these things?

Ryan · September 17, 2016, 10:02pm

I don’t know why you’d use equipment by those evil bastards, when you could be using Elektron gear which, as everyone knows, is assembled and manufactured by angels appointed by God to end death and sorrow

Cosmic · September 17, 2016, 10:03pm

Elektron is made by Norsemen, Thor and his hammer.

Prints · September 17, 2016, 10:14pm

Here’s a quote from a recent post over on the Gearslutz thread by a user who owns both the Toraiz and the OT; it reinforces what I said about the sound difference between the two.

“It sounds amazing, the D to A converters are very good to my ears. I put the same sample in Toraiz (HD!) and Octatrack (SD!)and the quality difference is big.”

Cosmic · September 17, 2016, 10:18pm

I will be sticking with my substandard sound quality OT for the time being.