Tonverk: User Thread

I have used them a bit, and it’s as great as you’d imagine. SC’s were fun in the Digitakt but here we have polyphony and tons more FX, you can really go wild. HOWEVER, unfortunately right now it does not have the handy feature the Digitakt has of looping SC wavs in the file browser preview, so you only get a blip and have to randomly try them if you have hundreds like I do (adventure kid of course), so hopefully they add that soon.

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What param are you sequencing?

Unfortunately no. What I’ve found helpful is to label my own samples with AAA at the start so they’re at the top in the list. It takes a bit of setup and hopefully Elektron can give us a persisting menu to speed this up.

When I heard there was no slicing I wanted to try and find at least one way of doing it. You could of course use one sample and just lock the start point of each step if you prefer. For more permanent chop points I figured this is a workaround for now at least.

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Yeah Ty.
I want to keep chops on the subs the keys are so nice to trigger them, you can get really fast.
Yes persistent menus would make this so much better.

I’m not sure we will ever see chops because , DT.
But I’m really not fussed about , I’m so used to just picking my own start and end points from work arounds or bad implementation from older samplers.
Timestretch either , never use it , I’m not sure this machine is about that, and it doesn’t make sense from a business point of view either.

I’m using Kimura Taro digital waveforms as oscs in my TV, and they work great. They are not single cycle waveforms, but longer loops of single osc notes with internal modulation, and they work really well on the TV, especially with a bit of LFO start time modulation for giving them a more “free running oscs” feel when playing polyphonically.

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Sequence a kick on one channel and a clear note sustained on another channel to make it easy to hear in the example. Hit func+routing and send the note to a separate bus. Hit funk+track and the bus you want to navigate there. Add an FX that can change the volume. Now p-lock the first and maybe second step at low volume or closed filter, then p-lock the next step to the desired volume. May cause clicks.

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You can use one of the LFOs on the FX track to make the fake side chaining smoother. Dial in you LFO (exponential or ramp might be the best choice for the application) to increase the volume of the FX. P-lock the depth only for steps where you want the side chain to happen. Cool extra convenience: you can decrease the length of the pattern of the bus track, so you don’t have to repeat the process for multiple steps. Just do it for step one and decrease the pattern length to 4, so you have an easy 4 on the floor fake side chain.

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I folded an got a Tonverk and so far I’m really enjoying it.
However, I’ve hit what may be a bug and just want to share in case it’s user error (before I put in a ticket).

I’m using track1 as a Subtrack with drum sounds. I want to plock the Rev Send (Send Track 3) on the first trig only to give some reverb to the crash (which effects all the subtracks in the track… which I’m aware of as being expected).
I’m on the “Super Track” (3 little squares above the track number, vs 1 square with the subtrack number next to it) but every time I create a non-trig trig (yellow) and set it to “1st” condition, it effects the Kick on Subtrack 1 too. When I check the first Trig on that subtrack, it’s Red as expected but it also has the “1st” condition on it despite me not setting that up.
I’ve tried multiple times and it keeps happening.
Anyone else have this issue?
Does anyone else have this behaviour?

EDIT: I’m also noticing that the trig condition is not working on the super track. The non-trig itself is working correctly (opens the rev send for a moment) but it happens every go around despite being set to “1st” condition. Strangely enough, the Subtrack trig that is, for some reason, being set to “1st” condition too does work correctly…
very confusing

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Okay, definitely seems like a bug.
I think I see two main things happening

  • If you are on subtrack 1 that has a trig on step 1, then switch to the super track and create a new trig/trigless trig and set a condition to that, the trig on the subtrack also gets set to it too. Can’t imagine that would be intentional…

  • If you create a trig on the supertrack that has a plock, and then delete/remove the trig, the plock remains. The only way to get rid of it is to insert a trig a that step again, then “release” the plock by holding that trig and clicking on the corresponding parameter. Then delete the trig.

I will report but would also appreciate if anyone else can confirm this happens on their TV too

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You can assign a compressor to an individual track and it has sidechain in the settings. Will it fire via a trig on the track?

I don’t know if anything is working correctly on the supertracks or if I just don’t understand the Supertrack concept. I tried using it to sequence the Subtrack effects and constantly ran into glitches. Can’t recall the details though.

Also, some trig conditions are broken elsewhere as well.

I reported the issues to Elektron.
I knew this was gonna be a bit painful going in. Hopefully they will get these sorted out real soon.
Besides the bugs I’ve hit already, I am enjoying it.

I agree about the file system. Adding samples to each of the 8 Subtrack slots is painful.

Hi! I had read some posts on this forum about how the samples are stored on the SD card, they have to be in a specific folder but I can’t explain it well, and I don’t remember where those posts are. Also I just received my TV today, just starting with it.
Yeah, you can create thread dedicated to multisample instruments.
I don’t know if you saw it yet but on September 29th will be released a new firmware update 1.01 for TV. They will solve this issues that you are mentioning :slight_smile:

I’m not home to do testing, but I think some of the issues you’re experiencing might just be misunderstanding the super track. I think (I haven’t used it much yet) it is basically a higher level sequencer that effects all of the individual sub-tracks under it, so if you do a trig condition on a step on the super track, it would apply to all 8 tracks under it on that step.

For instance you can use the super track to place trigs for all 8 tracks with the step editor, with the keys showing which tracks have a trig on that step.

Elektron needs to puts a lot of effort into making Tonverk / platform act more responsive.

For example pasting a trig takes almost 3 seconds before you can paste another trig. If you try and paste quickly you’ll get a ‘please wait’ message and any parameter locks are ignored. Like WTF is that all about?

And just in general I feel like there is a bit of lag when interacting with the TV. If I go back to another Elektron box the ‘feel’ is night and day.

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But here’s the thing, the trig condition from the super track would only alter the last subtrack that I had been on (you can see it as a yellow LED above the subtrack key) and only the trig condition itself. All the other subtracks’ trigs on the same step were unaffected.
Even the trig can be different (red note trig on supertrack and yellow trigless on sub).
If that is intended behaviour, it will hurt more than help my workflow

Hmm, yeah sounds strange, definitely think it’s a bit buggy for sure!

Does Tonverk use the same coated buttons and knobs which get sticky over time, like the Digi machines?

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I hope not, had that same issue with the beat step pro knobs. With that ones you can take them off and clean the coated with rubbing alcohol but these ones are push buttons.