I had a couple of things before I got the TV, which I hardly use now.
If I were to choose again, it would be something monophonic that the TV and laptop cannot really cover. So, an analog monosynth with lots of knobs capable of weird and wonderful sounds. Maybe a minibrute 2.
This:
… or, in short, a complex monophonic instrument that has a broad timbral range, as the Tonverk can then take it into polyphonic territory.
I think this would be better than a polysynth as the multisampled version would have more room to disappoint (with a poly, the sample would lose any subtle modulation across the synth that may have been inherent in the patch, but cannot claim to gain anything as impactful as turning a rich mono voice poly).
p.s. This track doesn’t have a Cascadia in it, but four versions of a related product by the same company (the Atlantis). The Cascadia is sort of an improved standalone Atlantis, as the latter is Eurorack.
If I have space, I will try PWM malevolent.
To pair with Tonverk as sampling source I think the best is :
auto sampling a cool patch to make a big poly analog pad or heavy fx-ed bassline sounds like a fun hobby
Lol, this makes sense.
Man, the more music I make on TV, without using multisamples, the more I realize I don’t really need Tonverk…
I’d be curious to hear you elaborate on that. The Tonverk seems to have a very distinct niche even without the multisamples (the fx, the routing if leaned into, the polyphony).
For me the only dud feature is the subtrack concept, but I’m also not especially interested in putting drums into my Tonverk, and other use cases are still obscure. Dud here just means “doesn’t excite me,” not so much “entirely useless,” btw.
I hear ya.
I use tonverk mostly for drums but don’t use subtracks. I prefer to p-lock my samples per step like in days of yore. the subtrack ux with the super track n all is an unnecessary extra level of ui from my perspective. I prefer to steer clear of it altogether. just my 2c. ymmv.
I’m leaning way into all this! And then resampling the results…
Now if only I could chop up those results 
Yeahhhh, it would be so great to chop resampled stuff directly on TV. I don’t even know if I’m “allowed” to post here as I don’t own a TV, but I’m very close to getting one.
If that happens, I suppose I’ll record things onto Push 3 to do my chopping, but it seems like unnecessary hokey poky.
I’m strongly considering getting rid of my Intellijel Multigrain to help with the cost of the TV, as it seems like a great granular sampler. I know slicing isn’t what it’s about, so I’ll shut up now.
Yeah, even as I wrote what you’re responding to, I was thinking I wouldn’t even use the subtracks even if I wanted to use the Tonverk for drums, given the full track shares FX (and separation is important for me)… but I also have a Digitakt II, Octatrack MKI, Machinedrum MKI, modular drums, A4 for drums (not that I think it does good drums), and a Nord Drum 2.
That said, one plus to doing drums in the Tonverk is the immediacy given the potential for latency, and the FX+routing are nice (not to mention resampling, like djadonis206 said, which will result in the drums eventually living in my Tonverk, but hopefully we’ll have a slice machine by then).
It is possible to chop with the subtracks by loading same sample.
Doesn’t replace slices, my No1 feature request.
Yes this seems like a decent workaround. Can you copy and paste samples across subtracks?
Apparently not possible (Func + Subtrack + Rec to copy would be practical). You can copy SRC page but it doesn’t concern sample assignment.
That said, starting a Subtrack from scratch with CREATE NEW, it is pretty fast to assign the same sample for all subtracks.
Interesting take on Subtracks. I personally use Subtracks within every project, as I don’t want to have to use another machine just for drums I do often find them to be fairly limiting, and also that my drums are becoming a little less of the focus, which in ways I actually like, as I’ve been focusing more on ‘song’ writing.
As for dud features, I just don’t really find multisampling all that useful, as I’d pretty much always rather just play my synths. The only real reason I could see myself using the feature is to sample VSTs, usually of real instruments, like pianos and strings and stuff, but even then, those have usually already been professionally multisampled and exist in an instrument. So again, what’s the point?
As such, I have basically just been using TV as a polyphonic loop player and sequencer, with a somewhat simple drum machine (Subtracks). The interface is great tho and the effects and routing are cool. However, I must say that I am having a bit of a hard time justifying the purchase, as I live in Canada, where Tonverk costs almost $2500 after tax, and for the features that I currently use, my laptop (or maybe DT/OT) could arguably do an equal or better job, albeit with a pretty boring UI (not in the case of DT/OT of course).
Funny, as I think about the parts of TV that I use, I remember the times I’ve had Octatrack, where I was wishing for things like Subtracks, send effects, a dedicated master channel and sampler, so I am really trying to give TV time before I pass judgment, but currently, I really am just seeing and using it as a hardware DAW.
Thank you for the elaboration. Only comment I have is on this portion, as I’d think there would be a strong use case for resampling even the synths you’re using via midi into the Tonverk for p-lock functionality. Unless your hardware synths have p-lock styled functionality already, having them in the Tonverk allows for at least filter and LFO locks (though, admittedly, the parameters exposed on the multisample machine are pretty sparse at the moment - tune is pointless, and vibrato and speed aren’t especially exciting).
Do you own any mono synths? Making them poly might be worth a shot, and if your synths aren’t multitimbral then you can get a bit of that through sampling. So not sampling as replacement, but sampling to augment.
I do not really have any mono synths. Other than A4, which I think would not be better as a multisampled instrument. Maybe Lyra? Again, probably not better, as the best part of it is interacting with it. I think I am getting a Steampipe tonight, which is also best when interacting with it’s interface. Hydrasynth is best while playing it’s keyboard.
I do see what you’re saying in regards to the benefits of p-locking parameters on synths with less capable sequencers, but most of my synths are more powerful when interacting directly with their interface.
See where I’m coming from? I worry that I just fell for marketing, you know?
At the same time, the things that Tonverk does offer are important to me:
I guess when it comes down to it, if I wasn’t worried about how many monetary credits I traded for it, I wouldn’t even be second guessing it. I think the biggest point the I am wrestling with, is that Tonverk sometimes feels like an unnecessary stop between my synths and Ableton, which is where everything turns up in the end anyways. There is a flip side of this; if I ever talked myself into wanting to play live, I could see Tonverk being really great.
I think you said it best earlier: the Elektron system offers a sense of immediacy that synergizes with creativity in a way a mouse and keyboard often does not. Whether playing life, or just “live in the bedroom,” the hands on approach and workflow will take you down avenues Ableton alone might not.
Sure, Ableton is more powerful, and no matter what you could probably achieve similar ends there… but would you?
In my youth, 90s era, I used to pride myself on intentionally changing my sequencing approach with almost every track (MMT-8s for one, Cubase for another, Roland MC-50mkII for another, using a drum machine with each track set to a different midi output number for the next, etc). It wasn’t that one box or another was inherently superior, but I liked to imagine they all brought something unique out of me that otherwise wouldn’t have risen to the surface (the end result was a symbiosis between me and the machine’s unique foibles). This was all inspired by a Mike Paradinas quote (aka μ-Ziq), but those specifics are almost secondary.
Anyhoo, I share just to share. I’m sure you’ll know soon enough if the Tonverk should be a keeper or not. 
But couldnt fit the modular exactly that role? A monosynth full of possibilities?
I’ll get the modular out when my kids stop destroying everything in their wake. Takes too long to set up and pack up with euro right now
But yes that would be awesome in theory!
Perhaps! I’ve used the dato with my eldest at a synth show and there was some interest shown but maybe not enough to buy one.
I left my youngest with euro patch cables for a few minutes and he tied knots in many of my stackables to make a ‘monster trap.’ I have also seen what he can do to a pre-patched 126hp 9u 
With the Tonverk I can set up/hide it in under a minute which is perfect. And I’ve definitely been more productive with it than with other gear