I’m really enjoying the Tonverk. Mine arrived last night and I’ve been learning the box. The layout trips me up a bit based on my muscle memory with the Digis but I’m getting the hang of it quickly.
Now the bus routing. Damn is this a lot of fun. It really starts to click when you p-lock different chains on each bus and start jamming with routing. Multi select tracks into each bus. I’m assuming direct jump with pattern switching will allow for even more chaos.
Right now I’m really into this thing. Next step is hooking my Perkons up to the inputs to see what crazy routing I can set up for that. Anticipating some sync issues from what I’ve heard.
I think you might be able to route tracks into the headphone out for pattern mutes. Assuming you’re recording the main out. Need to test. Just the fact that they added a cue out to headphones gives me hope that they have some more things in store for buses.
Just discovering something. Monitoring back through the TV introduces quite a bit of latency for me. This is a first for my Elektron devices.
I don’t use clock to sync my devices. I use Transport Send and keep the tempos matched on all my boxes. Works perfect. Super tight sync.
But when I go to run the other boxes back through the TV’s inputs, the beats coming in are delayed a little. I don’t get this behavior on my DT2 or OT.
Hi. Having some trouble with connecting an external midi controller. Doesn’t work via usb nor midi. Tried two Launchkeys and a Komplete kontrol. Nothing. I’ve set things up correctly in midi setting. Are there any other setting I’d need to play with … like on the DTII you have to select the midi channel on the track settings … I think . Something like that. Any help appreciated.
Got mine yesterday and it is amazing so far. It feels a lot more like a complete stand-alone solution for making full songs that don’t just sound like groove box loops. The Digi 2 upgrades were a lot more exciting on paper than they were in practice, but the Tonverk feels like a whole new world. I am a lot more motivated to sit down with the Tonkverk as opposed to the other boxes.
The auto-sampling having random notes that are delayed is super annoying though and I hope that’s one of the first fixes, as it’s basically the flagship feature of the box. I’ve only gotten 1 usable multi-sample so far. I’ve had to delete my other ones due to multiple notes being ruined. Does anyone have any more info or a workaround for this while we wait for a fix?
Aside from bugs, the main downside I see so far is that live performing could be better. The Rytm/A4 has scenes/macros and the Digi boxes have ctrl+all. The Tonverk has perform mode, but to my knowledge there isn’t a way to control multiple parameters at once. Hopefully a future update will add something.
Also, I can’t give enough praise to the Degrader and Dirtshaper FX. I love the Analog Heat, and although the Tonkverk definitely isn’t a replacement, it can definitely add in some Analog Heat sounding crunch that I often crave.
Gotcha. Yea. I don’t know the science behind it. I changed the velocity curve and the drums sound fuller. I try not to think too much about what’s working and what’s not
I thought this helped too but in the end it doesn’t really. The effect is that it takes a little longer before it’s screwed, so the higher notes have this latency (or even clicks and pops).
I am quickly finding that especially Dirtshaper goes on every track. I love the way that the Drive parameter crunches stuff up in a very satisfying way.
I also feel the Degrader Over parameter is perhaps the same as on the Amp page? Or do you think there is a difference?
Managed to do a live jam of a track with 3 patterns. I jumped around a little…it was a decently clean take with a few mistakes. I’ll see if I can edit a little. Point is that it can be done, but it’s not easy. I had to go back and forth between each track and make sure everything was balanced properly, especially the kick and bass. I stemmed out all the synths and vocals to one bus, kick and bass to the other and drums to the 3rd.
So tomorrow I’ll mix it down and see how it ends up. Pretty fun exercise that helped get me dialed in with the TV. I’ll be pairing it with an SP1200 so I’ll be using fewer tracks on the TV, probably no sub tracks, so live jamming will be a lot easier. Will probably do 2 takes, one on each sampler. Of course, once the sync on this works.
I recorded the TV unsynced into the DAW and just matched the BPMs, selected all 3 stems at once and lined up the kicks. There was no drift at all doing it this way, in case any of you all want to try it.
The buttons do have a similar rubberized coating but no idea if it’s the same formulation. Hope something has been changed, my digitakt got really bad after a few years. I’ve seen various theories about what causes or accelerates this. Heat? Humidity? Oils or fatty acids from your skin/fingertips? Air quality around your gear? Do decksavers make it worse (by concentrating off-gassing) or do they help? Fingers crossed…
No idea what it is, but none of the Elektrons I’ve owned over the years have had encoders go bad/gummy on me. So whatever causes it, its not occurring where I live…
This is one of the things I really looking forward to do on TV.
It doesn’t seem to be any video covering that aspect, and that’s a shame cause it can really make the TV shine, bringing it closer to a proper synth.
Feel free to share your take on that or better yet posting some noises made that way
Is this the same on other Elektron devices? I increased the attack value by turning the knob while pressing the keyboard activating a fairly short sample and got infinite sustain. It’s a bit surprising and it’s repeatable and only requires a tiny amount of finesse. There is a point in the attack range where the sample won’t produce sound and the trick is to approach it using the knob to get sustain. It could be a way to make sustained notes in a pattern using only short notes but I’m wondering if it’s intended.
There isnt much to tell. The onboard filter and filter keytracking makes it all work rather well. All I’m personally missing is being able to FM these samples, like you can do with something like Ableton Sampler
What I like about the Kimura Taro samples in this case is, many of them are more than just a single cycle, so looping them gets you a sound which has inner modulation of the oscillator sound. Sounds much more like a synth oscillator that way, and if you subtly LFO modulate the sample start (and take care of any discontinuations in the sound with a bit of attack etc) you will get something resembling a “free running” oscillator, a very nice effect when playing chords
