idk what samples they were
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I’ve already posted this question on the technical Q&A thread but maybe it’s more appropriate to ask this here, I don’t know, sorry for posting this twice :
I’ve read some people power their Tonverk by connecting it directly to their macbook pro with a usb c cable. In that case, is it possible to use a single usb c cable to power the Tonverk and to transmit audio and midi between it and the macbook pro ?
Same issue here. I have all sorts of less than obvious sample assignments and there no way I can remember which sample chain from which foley recording session I used on all 8 tracks
I’ll see if a preset based workflow is reliable in the meantime
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No it will bring back zombies…
I am French, I don’t clearly understand what you mean, seems very mean. A beta tester group independant from Elektron is testing Tonverk since january 25.
Exiting at first but not funny every day, especially at the beginning, with a new platform.
We are still reporting bugs, check Elektronauts bug reports, and report them directly.
If you’re not happy with Tonverk, and if you don’t trust Elektron team, just sell it.
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I don’t think anyone doubts the teams ability to create some amazing stuff, and I can totally imagine it being hard work being a beta tester.
But QA really do need to take a close look at their smoke and regression testing processes and thoroughness.
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I agree that all functions should have been tested. Perform mode particularly. (I don’t use it.)
I can’t tell about missing intruments with existing projects, didn’t happen to me.
In general, for Elektron, the beta testers are not supposed to check all previous / existing functions for each new beta version. We mostly check new features, there is a protocol for that, and we keep using the product “normally” (with a bug search mode in mind of course).
Particular things can be out of the radar, users generally don’t use all functions.
Hoping newer bugs will be solved asap, older ones too…
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I’m just over a week into my TV and I’m finally really starting to love it. It’s an incredible device. I know the big selling point is the multi player and it’s definitely great but for me its the the effects and routing options that are the best parts.
That being said I find it kind of hard to recommend as its really buggy. I thought after 6 months and all the patches it would be pretty stable but I feel like every session I have some kind of issue happens.
I mentioned this is the bug thread but this morning I had a complete pattern delete its self and reset to default (back to 1 page, 120 bpm) all my tracks had no sounds, sequencer wiped.
Fortunately I JUST saved so no progress loss but I would have been EXTREMELY unhappy had it happened like 5 mins before and lost the hour I spent redoing my kick drum sound and sequence.
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I think none of the replies you received got that right. The explanation is fairly simple. Audio MODs work on a voice level. They can only modulate parameters on Src/Amp/Filter pages. Every voice has a different values of those parameters.
FX MODs work on a track level. They are shared between all voices of the track. It doesn’t make much sense to modulate voice parameters with a track level LFO, as each voice would receive the same parameter value, whereas the voice LFOs are independent of each other (tho you have the option to make LFOs monophonic).
In theory, it was possible to implement, but that could lead to confusion as to why LFOs act differently. It was just simpler to make a clear distinction between them.
Voice level LFOs don’t have access to insert FX parameters, as they are placed earlier in signal processing path, before voices are summed, so it was not possible to make all LFOs voice level LFOs.
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I would have been happy to be confused with 5 modulation sources freely assignable.
On the Hydrasynth there is a matrix with 32 modulations. Macros can be destinations. Each of the 8 macros can control 8 parameters :
Up to 88 different destinations (24+8x8)
Sources : 5 envelopes, 5 lfos, poly aftertouch, velocity, keytracking, MPE…
Doesn’t lead me to confusion !
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This! Thank you for putting it into context again. I also couldn’t care less about how it works and on which layer a modulator supposedly works. My original question was about why we don’t have freely assignable modulators, LFOs, Envelopes interchangably, regardless of their mod destinations. I don’t see how this would have been confusing.
I like your comparison with the Hydrasynth, very good example for proper implementation! Even better, in Hydrasynth land, an Envelope modulator can also be an LFO if set to repeatable. It does not add complexity/confusion but flexibility. Loving that!
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Does Hydrasynth have tracks like TV does?
Imagine they introduce mod matrix to the DN2. More mod sources, multiple mod destinations per mod source, the ability to freely choose between LFO/envelope/whatever. That would work on DN2, because there is basically no tracks, everything modulateable belongs to a voice.
Think of it like a DAW and a VST synth. An LFO inside your Serum can’t modulate something that you put after Serum in signal chain. It’s the same. The original question was ‘why aren’t all MODs created equal, why is there a distinction’. That’s why.
This is quite possibly a stupid question but how does control all work on TV? I assume you hold down TRK and turn kmobs but it doesn’t seem to work? Am I an idiot or does it only work on the same types of machine’s or something?
It doesn’t have control all (yet??).
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Ohhhhhh that explains why its not working lol. Kind of lame it doesn’t have it. I guess i could put an effect on a bus and do it that way?
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I am the only one getting tripped by the timing of pressing “yes” and then then fn+no to erase the placeholder name of the recording ?
I often get kicked back to the sampling screen where fn+no erases the recording.
I’ve had to re-record a few times be cause of that.
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i do this also, before 1.3 i was forgetting to do this but it’s a good habit has it can take some time setting up an entire subtract. ( samples assign, filters, enveloppes and effects ….)
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I do it regularly without problem.
I checked again without issue.
fn+no just after yes as quick as possible…
Is there another way to reproduce your issue ?
Live, the master fx track has been serving as a poor man’s control all for me
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In 2050 ? I’ll be too old.
16 tracks. Lfos are tracks parameters.
I can’t see why it would be different on DN2 compared to TV, besides insert fx stuff…
HS is an example of a powerful modulation setup.
My point is that 5 freely assignable modulations would have been possible on TV. Just longer parameters destination list for each.
On the Octatrack the lfos also control insert fx. Not confusing…
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I tried recreating my issue an found exactly what’s happening
Sample something
press YES to save
FN+NO to delete the placeholder name
At this point, releasing FN before NO will throw you back to the sampling screen as if you pressed only NO for “abort”.
It’s user error i guess… but I think the TV shouldn’t register releasing FN as pressing the NO button.
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