Ok thanks. Shouldn’t happen.
I will check…
Tested and agreed…reporting…
I am used to release Func after combo in general. I also hold NO to erase all letters.
In this case, you have to press Func + No again to discard. Isn’t it a user error ? Anyway, we shouldn’t go back to that page with Func + No…Func release before No.
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A track in the DN is just a combination of a preset and a sequence.
Sure you can play multiple notes in a single track, aka polyphony, but there is no track level processing besides a shared volume fader…which isn’t modulateable. Even send FX levels are per voice.
LFOs parameters are voice level parameters too. You can p-lock LFO parameters on overlapping sustained notes and each voice will have different LFO settings at the same time.
Insert FX parameters aren’t accessible from a voice perspective. The only thing they could do is to give the ability to modulate SRC/FLTR/AMP values from the track level LFOs (aka FX mods) in a monophonic fashion.
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Afaik there is no polyphony on the Octa, so there is no distinction between a voice and a track. Each track is a voice. The same applies to the Digitakt.
TV seems to be the first of its kind in the Elektron world. It has both polyphony and track level signal processing. That confuses people apparently.
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I still don’t get the point.
Polyphony or not, why an lfo wouldn’t be able to control voice parameters or insert fx parameters, in the same list ?
Anyway it probably won’t happen on Tonverk. Nevermind.
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Maybe the voice lfos are poly and fx lfos are mono?
So ? Seems possible to adapt behavior depending on destination.
Side note: Grainer lfos are mono only.
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I find it useful how it is, but would love
Env also for FX
Keytrack
Vel
Env follower assignable to different destinations in different amounts (also negative)
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That’s been my concern as well, which lead me to questioning this design decision very much early on in the first place, naively hoping it would change something (for the better).
BTW this is just one of the design decisions made for the TV that I’m finding questionable and unless it isn’t for technical restrictions, I really hope it’s been planned well and properly thought through from start to finish but my overall impression is that a lot of it must have been improvised and rushed. When it comes to design decisions, things will be hard to change at a later point in time, especially if it affects the UI, user expectations and habits.
I think 3 mods for machine and 2 for fx choice has been thoughtful.
Could be retropatible to have free destinations imo…
Some other choices like bus / send fx are too reasonable / too safe for me, not possible to stack many fx, use them as send, no internal feedback possible…
Feedback possible with cables.
That’d be great !
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The fact it exists, yes, I agree. Implementation by itself? Questionable 
Anyway, I did and do not want to rant about it but I still view it from a certain angle that includes “wasted potential”.
Agree 100%
Funny, I’m actually experimenting with exactly that in this very moment
There’s Carl Jung’s “synchronicity” in too many moments lately 
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Idk, guys, we have the powerful Elektron sequencer at our disposal. We can p-lock like anything we want. Lock trigs have chance and condition settings too, so interaction between different probabilistic lock trigs can be insane. The bus tracks can have different sequence lengths than the audio tracks, so it works like asynchronous automation. The possibilities are endless. There is no DAW in the whole world that provides such a tight integration between the sound engine and the sequencer. No probabilistic automation points either. Even Bitwig and Renoise are far behind Elektrons in that regard. 3 voice mods and 2 FX mods in a single track are enough, imo, don’t forget the bus tracks with their own LFOs.
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Im assuming resource mgmt here.
I was under the belief that the fx lfos are mono, can the fx section even do poly? I should try some plucks using fx LPF and fx exp LFO.
If it is poly, I don’t see why they don’t have a common list.
Fx aren’t polyphonic. Hope to have polyphonic Comb Filters, probably as filter.
Anyway, poly or not, concerning the 5 freely assignable mods, I think it was feasible, probably a “too” reasonable choice, for simplicity, or cpu limits…
I wish I could have more mod sources on voices, especially Grainer.
That said Wavefinder can have up to 6 lfos ! 
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You may be able to get some details if you open the SST file from the Project folder on the card in a text editor. It’s a binary file, so most of it will be unreadable, but I can see the sample file names in there. Be careful to avoid changing anything in the file.
It’s beautiful… along with a limiter on the master 
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Don’t provoque me on this ! 
(I am on Wavefinder for now.)
Can’t wait for comb filters keytracking, granular fx to try feedback stuff…
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How would I, ever?
Can’t wait for a comeback of …
… THE GRANULATOR - Now includes sound ™ !!! 
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I nearly just had a Tonverk-related heart attack because I’m stupid, so please allow me to vent a bit.
I have TV and DN2 arranged in a nice little rig (a stand with audio/midi cables and power supplies hidden and power cables conveniently strapped together with velcro laces and such). I decided to upload a couple of samples into the TV, so I took the power cable and plugged it in, took the USB-C cable and plugged it into my computer and switched the TV on. I uploaded the samples into the TV, then properly disconnected the TV from the computer and got out of Disk Mode.
I went on to try the samples, but no sound came out of the TV (an uneasy feeling started creeping in). I decided to try another sample, just in case this one was not well recorded (not much chance of that, but whatever): no sound came out (heartrate climbing). Then I loaded one of the projects of a live set that I’m working on for a gig next May. Pressed play. No sound came out (heartrate spike).
In an effort to not panic, I decided to fully disconnect the USB-C cable, just to put it aside in the box and try to properly check the machine… and the TV went black (heart failure started to loom). I pressed the ON switch: nothing happened (eyes widened, knees wobbled). I tried again. And again. Nothing: the TV bricked peacefully on the stand, black-screened and inert.
I tried again not to panic: I took the power supply, checked the cable and the connection, unplugged it from the socket and tried another nearby socket. Again, nothing. I changed the plug to the other USB port on the TV… nothing.
With trembling hands, I stopped and decided to plug the whole rig from zero, checking what may be going wrong, even though in my head I was already thinking that I must have gotten one of those buggy and faulty Tonverks that I’ve read about in this very forum (I already got one of those faulty Hydrasynths with the drifty encoders that move on their own some years back… so maybe I’m just jinxed, I thought).
So I plug in the power cable again and mistakenly press the switch on the DN2, and it starts up… and then it hits me: I had plugged the wrong power cable all along. I thought that had plugged in the TV cable, but had plugged the DN2 instead and the TV was getting power FROM THE USB-C CABLE, and that’s why there was no sound first and then it had switched off when I had removed the USB cable.
And that’s how I learned that…
- Tonverk can be USB-C powered by a 2017 iMac, but not fully, and
- I should go and properly label the power cables in my nice little rig.
Sorry for the long post, but maybe someday someone as stupid as me might find this pathetic story somewhat useful.
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Isn’t the Tonverk the most incredible and deep instrument from Elektron so far?
I mean seriously, it can do everything. Samples, synth stuff, effects…
Ok, the OT has some special tricks up its sleeve. But as an incredible deep allrounder the TV is a freakin power house imo.
It wasn’t instant love for me but it grew on me. And now i would even let go of my DT if i had to and could just keep one machine.
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