Sure, I also wouldn’t want to.
But I think there are plenty who would, at least for a while. To me, the question is how much of their user base such a device/model would alienate versus how many people would buy anything Elektron sells (or needed the featureset badly enough). Hard to say but I think a lot of the people who like a hardware instrument instead of a DAW are the same kind of people who loathe a monthly subscription.
Just a hunch though, I really have no idea.
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It took them 6 month to start working on that trademark registration. American agencies as slow as german ones…
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if its gonna be a buy once a software machine model transfering ownership of such licenses on the second hand market would be awkward, subscriptions are much simpler in that regard.
i tried to find out what changed, but i found something else interesting. Devices like OCTATRACK, SYNTAKT, DIGITAKT and so on have the Type Code GS0151. Overbridge and tonverk share the same typecode GS0091. where it starts to get strange is that ableton move also shares the GS0091. What this means for me is: tonverk won’t be another octatrack mk3 or syntakt 2 or any “hardware-only” device. there will be a stronger emphasis on software in this device
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Good spot. Seems to suggest more reliance on being paired with a computer than their other boxes. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with it. I always thought the Elektron plugins looked fantastic and, in the case of the A4, much easier to use than the hardware in some respects. It seemed to give me a better overview of all the parameters.
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Think Ess mentioned earlier its hardware but only in the prototype stage.
Maybe they’re looking at the very long term with the Tonverk, as one hardware machine, which will support new loadable software instruments for years to come ? I think the device layout is generic enough to support that hypothesis.
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yeah. maybe something like native instruments machine, which works standalone or in combination with a pc/mac
Yea I am getting pretty convinced that this may not make sounds at all on its own
I may have forgotten but what part of the proto type implied this thing can do it’s own sounds? (Other than our hopes and dreams)
Looking at the DN2 and DT2 they clearly have Tracks labeled where they make sounds but on the TV proto type they are clearly labeled as not tracks but Drum, Audio, FX, Bus and Main
Like I hate to say it but there are even 8 Audio busses like an Octatrack
It just feels like this is meant to gather other audio sources, which sounds like a new thing for a hardware device
if it creates all this stuff I am nervous it will be a jack of all trades master of none
I think the ToneVerk might be a Prototyping device for new digiboxes? And maybe most recently used for prototyping the DN2? Maybe it’s even considered to be a blank OS device that can load any/all of the chosen Digi OS’s?
I would like it to be the new MnM with all the bells and Elektron whistles: available machines/FX/FLT to choose from, but hey…
Just dreaming aloud here
Looks like a nice new flagship with the latest modern tech.
(it being a wavetable/sampler sequencer, most likely - like an OT2
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Depending on how you interpret Elektron’s statement it might even be an abandoned concept.
The fact Elektron have responded suggests otherwise
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Fair point if you want to deal with multiple boxes. If you want one box that covers both sampling and synths your options are a bit limited in the elektron range. I mean, DT2 offers limited synthesis.
So a future offering that combined samples, synthesis, 16 tracks and 128 steps would be most welcome.
No idea if that was the Tonverk concept.
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It’s probably not a prototype for digiboxes, as it doesn’t make sense to waste all the effort and ressources into making a more complex and bigger box just to test out smaller boxes. It could have been a concept to put DN and DT into one box, that then was dropped to make the DT and DN II. Or, it was a completely separate project from digis, which could have been abandoned by now.
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My theory is that any Elektron box with “tone/ton” in its name has the Digitone oscillators as a machine.
I think that the Tonverk was planned as an extension of the Digitone 2 concept that also incorporates samples.
What I’d really hope to see is the ability to modulate samples with various synthesis types. That would be next level.
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Why wouldn’t they just have a blank Digi box to do that? Why use a different box to test Digis?
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Why would they register a trademark for a prototyping device ? I can’t see that there would be any need ?
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because they can test multiple boxes/prototypes. More hardware internal CPU power to test hands on user experience etc? (hence all the additional buttons) Take it to the max and then strip it down to DigiFormat limitations to meet cost objectives? IDK, just having some fun here imagining what this lovely apparatus could be.
Cheers 
(already stoked about the new DN2)
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Getting that its just a prototype, but its odd that it just had the 2 USB ports and no power connector to be seen on the back. Could it have a battery? And otherwise move to charging/power via USB? It’s nice to see a move to USB C, could that mean a move to USB3?
Overbridge as a concept is more about connecting box to DAW, but could that be leveraged in some other way, device to device? I’d image if so it would be quite a mouthful to manage on that tiny screen - although maybe not - with some of the ctrl all and page layer style routing we’ve seen, maybe it could be as simple as that.
I’d think it would definitely still run standalone, having a box that needed to be connected to a laptop seems a bit backwards.
But why have an SD card? Even the DTII has 20gb now, which is heaps. An SD card suggests it can handle massive files. So maybe it actually records on-device.
In the simplest terms I try and think of what would be nice to add to Elektron boxes. Probably for me it’s just Insert FX. We’ve been in the Send FX space for a long time.
The Bus concept leans into that for me, but the USB ports potentially add to that too.
I was watching an EZBOT clip yesterday and talking Rhythm vs Digi. Like, where do those ‘flagship’ boxes sit now, now that so many features have moved over to the Digi’s?
Maybe its something like that, where the ‘flagship’ box becomes much more like a host - providing record, bus options, potentially routing the channels of other boxes over USB into the one main box for mixing, or maybe making use of those incoming boxes FX via the host device. Maybe too far fetched haha.
Some Insert FX would be nice though.
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Totally agree. This would be my preference - one megabox to fully dive into. No need to find external synth if I need some sequence or drone over glitched out samples. And vice versa, easily add samples into a pure synth project.
But I have a feeling that we are more far away from it, maybe it would happen after saying bye-bye to Rytm & Octa. Interesting if there is any strategic vision for a future.
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