Tonverk speculations

We know basically nothing about what the sound engines will be aside from it having some kind of sampling capability, but for my purposes it’s looking like it might be an overall more desirable option than the ST, DN, A4. That’s assuming it has actual proper polyphony, the lack of which is what really puts me off of the Syntakt.

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Was thinking about sample synth, what types of synthesis kinds could we expect?
Thinking of

  • wavetables
  • granular synthesis
  • sample FM-ing each other (yeah baby)
  • ROM player with different samples across octaves

I guess there could also be some basic sample player with start, loop-from, loop-to, end like on the OP-1

Do you see other things?

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The more I look at it, the more I’m leaning toward this being a purely sample-based synth rather than a host device for many different types of machines. Almost like a synth version of the Digitakt 2.

Even in this limited context, there’s room for multiple “machines” (wavetable, granular, single-cycle, etc.), but it would still be in keeping with Elektron’s inclination to not give you too much functionality in a single box. It would also let them directly leverage their recent development on the DT2/new hardware platform, and it wouldn’t step on the toes of the Syntakt as much as a more general purpose synth would. Also, it doesn’t require them to completely transition their business model to selling bits of software.

Bonus prediction: $1399

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Do you think it will be that though? With inflation and all.

Definitely need to hear what it does and how many voices it has. At $2K, that would put it in line with Rytm, which is a very analog piece of gear. If this is digital/sample based, I’d expect it to come in cheaper, probably in line with OT at $1500

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I REALLY hope they decide to go all black with the keyboard. It looks awesome on the A4 and also all black keys look WAY better on the Digitone. The white and gray simply scream for too much attention for something that I’m willing to bet is NOT the primary interface users will interact with, but I could be wrong. I’d be really surprised to find if user research of a significant number of people says otherwise. Of course Elektron may absolutely know that users would prefer black keys and are purposely keeping them white/gray in order to make more $ from users who order black key replacements, but unfortunately these keys don’t match the existing black keys of the A4 so we may never even have that opportunity.

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Alright folks, I gotta say it—some of us are running a bit high on the ol’ blood pressure, and this forum’s starting to feel like a pressure cooker! Now come on, we’re all Elektronauts here, right? Let’s just take a step back, chill out a bit, and remember to enjoy a possible new Elektron! Keep it groovy, people!

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Love this! :grinning:

I‘d think they wouldn’t want the next device after DT II to step on that one’s toes first. With the trajectory of last releases, the keyboard, arp etc., I‘d be really surprised if this wasn’t a poly synth that could maybe additionally also be a drum synth and have a bit of sampling.

Elektron ROMpler for the win

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Tend to agree, poly-synth sampler it is I reckon. Sounds like fun to me; arp, granular, FX sequencer. If there is also something as good as or better than a Digitone synth engine in there too, I’m getting it no questions; but that’s probably wishful thinking.

It would be shocking if this “Ton” machine didn’t have FM, and if it has that plus engines, then other synthesis types are a given. Anyone seriously think it won’t?! Fm and either samples/wt/granular seem guaranteed

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There’s really no specific indications of anything in particular regarding the sound engine that I can see. In the leaked images there’s these musical term labels:

Sample (on the glass table version)
Instrument ( ^ )
Drums
Chord
Arp

I just mean they could immediately reuse a lot of the code they had written, without, for example, having to do something like write a synthesis engine from scratch. I don’t think much or any of the actual functionality of the DT2 would be replicated.

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Question - has Elektron ever messed around with granular synthesis before, or are we looking at their first rodeo? I gotta tell ya, if this is their debut, I’m pretty jazzed about it. The possibilities could be wild!

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No, no, no. He’s our resident Miserable Git!

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A machine will be dedicated to do granular synthesis, which is currently missing from their lineup and to compete with the Torso S-4. Probably also a more advanced timestretching algorithm than DT2.

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It’d be great if one track can FM another, especially if it’s samples. That’d be awesome imo!

Edit: someone already suggested it so seconded!

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I love the sound of that… but it would have to go real down in pitch without resampling please, I really love samples pitched down to oblivion but the resampling process makes me not do that on the rytm, so if we get samples FMing each other then please please please -12 octaves down, I want to hear them sample points stretch, thanks!

also, I know it’s a tall order but I wold love some warping algorithms for wavetables, similar to Ableton Wavetable or Vital, these can really warp the source sound

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I already have that amount saved for this machine, so I hope so… fingers crossed

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