I recently got the Digitone 2. Now I’m trying to figure out how to implement a 6/8 time signature. The obvious way would be adjusting the page length to 12 steps so that each of the 8 pages corresponds to one bar with the first beat on the first step of each page. Can somebody help me find the option to do that?
Edit: Or is there a kind of “jump” or “skip” command I can place on step 13?
Hold FUNC and hit PAGE. There you can set the number of steps per pattern.
Join the fight
I want to adjust the page length, not the pattern length. But this seems to be impossible.
I heard of the Elektron sequencers power and flexibility. It really surprises me that this is not possible. It’s pretty awkward to work around this. You would have to adjust the pattern length to a multiple of 12 and count steps to identify the first beat of a bar. If there were at least a command to jump to another step or to skip a step there would be an easy workaroud. But that also seems not to be the case.
You may want to add your voice to the feature request in this thread (just one example request here, I’m sure it’s been asked may times)
EDIT: Alternatively
They’re only awesome when you’re in 4/4.
But it not just an Elektron problem, it’s pretty widely spread. It’s important to fight the 4/4 hegemony and standardization. Especially now that AI is everywhere.
After using trackers for a while, the absence of HOP on elektron machines is really rough
Oh ok. Yeah, unfortunately not possible.
For what it’s worth: I have found that working with multiple sequencer pages is not my thing in general, regardless of signature
I much prefer to keep sequences to 1 page, and use trig conditions and probability to create ‘longer’ patterns. Scaling the speed of the sequencer (1/2, double, etc) can provide additional flexibility.
The 16 trigs available per page on Elektron boxes can accommodate up to 4 groups of 3, 3 groups of 4, and 2 groups of 5, 6, or 7. It takes a different kind of thinking to do stuff with conditions etc but I find it the lesser of evils over juggling multiple pages.
I definitely have a preference for that for drumkit/repetitive sounds … makes it easier for me to visualse the whole thing.
But aside from that, bass/melodic stuff, and sounds that have a repeat cycle of, say, 4 bars and up, perhaps even 2 bars, I prefer to see each bar separately. And if I made use of odd time signatures very much, then I’d also be calling for some changes on elektron boxes.
You can always use 14 ( or whatever you want ) step patterns and pattern chain them together.
Plus each pattern can then have unique tempo , fx settings etc to get more unique delays and reverbs going .
No need for any feature requests or waiting … just get on with it now. … and it’ll work on all devices / digitakt / digitone etc etc.
Great point. Yeah I was just commenting about purely rhythmic elements. I can’t really write melodic stuff that way.
Having said that, I have found the brain track on the op-xy (essentially a real time transposing function) makes that somewhat viable.
I’ll lend my voice to this plight, whenever and wherever I can…
Come on, Elektron, of all the amazing things your sequencers are capable of, and all the functionality that you’ve shoehorned in over the years, surely PAGE LENGTH is not that difficult to implement by comparison.
It fits the aesthetic, coincides with existing functionality, and would neither be a challenge to conceptualize nor visualize on the current hardware.
There’s a whole world of music out there that exists beyond the 4/4 domain.
Ante up…
Cheers!
Sorry for the pedantry, but
I can imagine a situation when you’ve set ‘page length’ to show 7 steps , which means you might need 10 or more pages …
digitak2 only has 8 led’s to show which page you are on … so you then need a way of showing more than 8 pages by flashing the leds
Plus the probability settings might need to expand to accommodate those extra pages … so you may need 1:11 , 2:11 etc .
Easy
I’m sorry, who presumed to say anything about coding?
I do product consulting, beta testing, and road testing for several music tech developers, big and small, and fully understand the extent of whatever changes or implementations I might suggest, in terms of time and resources.
Mostly though, as someone who uses these machines in a professional context, I’ve got just as much right to express my frustrations here as anyone else. At least I do so objectively, and with careful consideration for the developer’s vision and the product’s intended use.
I choose my battles carefully. I’ve seen Elektron go to great lengths to implement far more trivial features, many of which have exceeded the user interface at the expense of efficiency.
I only ever advocate for functionalities that are essential to the making of music. And I do mean ALL music, not just EDM.
To which end, the architecture is there to accommodate this request.
Whether we’re talking about Elektron, Roland, Korg, or Akai…
It is vexing to see something as fundamental as TIME SIGNATURES continually take a backseat to the endless barrage of requests for randomizers, generative sequencing functions, redundant scale and chord modes, and most recently A.I.
Hell, I’ve seen people more excited about “trophies” and “easter eggs” than missing features that impede basic musical expression.
Cheers!
Harsh but true.
@JohntheSavage I’m 100% in agreement with you about the validity of your request. It’s not something I’d use very much, but it’s definitely an odd omission from the Elektron feature set.
about coding
You said “implementation” which necessarily involves coding (firmware).