I think the thread is ok. I just don’t like the fanboy stamp when somebody has a different opinion. That’s a knockout argument
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Two things I did recently on the OT. There is some glitch included but I regard them as serious and musical. I’m no dilla though 
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I did this track mainly with OT (together with a complete stranger)
http://soundcloud.com/lying-dalai/alpesid
The guy had sent me long Pink Floyd-like guitar soli, and I didn’t know what to do with them. OT helped me quickly turn them into these funky basslines.
The noises in the background come from scratching a door.
OT is so powerful at transforming sound into anything else that you might quickly turn it into glitches and such, but you might very well avoid such territory if it’s not your thing…
But it took me more than a year to really master it.
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Forum = A place to discuss ideas and views about a particular topic.
Bigot = A person intolerant towards differing views of others.
Happy octatracking folks!
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The original poster has admitted to either being uninformed, a troll, or both. Can we lock this please mods?
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ok
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I don’t think there is another instrument out there that quite matches the OT in terms of “in the eyes of the beholder” - the right person will rock the shit out of it.
Some strange comments though. When I sit down at my upright piano, 99% of the time I just play Van Halen’s Jump. Does that mean the piano should be viewed unfavourably or less seriously? Of course not. People can and will totally own the OT and when they do it’s a sight to behold.
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OP, you could always post your own beats and people can advise you where you’re going wrong. Have you got some finished beats from OT? Being unable to do something doesn’t mean it’s impossible, the forums are pretty helpful, if you’re struggling to get satisfactory results. there’s no point going online and declaring your tools useless. If a man can’t build a chair should he go online and declare screwdrivers to be too rigid? And then say nobody could possibly build a chair while people post examples of chairs?
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The Octatrack is capable of doing SO MUCH, though. It’s more than just a sampler. It’s also an excellent tool for sound design, a dynamic FX Processor, and can act as a DJ Rig.
Aside from its lack of Velocity- it SHOULD be the tool for hip hop IMO
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I agree. Velocity sensitive pads are lacking. It’s not the tool for fingerdrummers. I also see that people coming from a mpc miss that the slices can be triggered with a midi controller.
But still. For sample based hip hop like Dilla.
You need to be able to sample - check
An option to chop the sample - check
Unquantized recording/ micro timing - check
Appolo Brown, seriously an awesome producer, does his beats on windows xp with audacity.
OT can do that. No excuses
I think many do, but none of them is payed to shout that in public. 
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lol, most people who endorse Elektron do so for free. It says something that Akai needs to pay people to market their samplers. Maybe they’re feeling a little insecure
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badass is fishing for street cred 
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It’s not just it, in box, ability- at least with the DT you could attach a midi controller with pads and it would be just as good. The OT would require a pad and some sort of midi processor linking midi velocity to volume. That’s just weird to me.
Gave this some thought. It seems that the OT is actually a sequencer focused mangler and tweaker rather than a musical performamce instrument. This has to do simply with the human interface. Its not made to “play” music but rather to “Manipulate” music.
So if, like me, you come from
Playing instruments, it feels remote, not having any touch sensitive realtime playing interface. However, if you vome from a programming/djing background, this is a very expressive device indeed.
Its much like a TB 303 in its DNA. A sequencer focused tool, rather than a musical instrument.
So i was wrongfully comparing apples and oranges. MPC is where you create the music and OT is where you jam and manipulate the music.
Lol what’s wrong with dubstep, trap, and edm? I also don’t like the genres but I’d like to hear other people’s opinions on it.
I first heard of Dub-Step from Skrillex- and I thought the whole genre was that sporadic clashing of timbres. So I initially thought it was representative of the whole genre.
Turns out it’s all just wub-wub-wub and audio clips used as memes.
A few of Skrillex’s tracks are surprising brilliant(I can’t believe it, because he just strikes me as a doofus)
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You know what feels “remote” to me? Sitting at the same desk I spend 8 hours a day at, looking at the same screen I always do, except it’s Ableton instead of Atlassian I’m looking at. Making music in a computer feels like work.
Trust me, I’m a guitarist, so I get what you’re saying, but the Elektron workflow is more tactile than you think, and more tactile than the alternative. 
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The expressive aspect, which is unboubtly there, comes into play at the processing stage. But the compsing stage(unless ur playing back music made by someone else) needs an interface that is sensitive to human touch, such as mpc pads, just as an example.
Thats why the ultimate combo is MPC for composing the actual music and then transfer to OT for manipulation in real time.
Or a piano, guitar or anything tactile if that’s how your juices flow best