It seems I have bad luck trying to control bw…
First realized after long headscratching (thanks to Adam Jay ) that bassstation doesn‘t work well as controller ( sends 2 midis at the same time).
Thought nektar lx25+ could be the most basic thing to control pages of 8 device controller mappings for softsynths. ( small, no screen, bitwig logo on package, supported)
Nektar wrote me that I have found a bug:
Pressing page + >> to change user controller device page also changes other stuff like playhead…
Bugs are very normal but thats really the most basic thing and only thing i wished to work not working. Strange noone told them…
Don’t know if i can give it back, i‘ m getting a cheap push soon probably, the praised novation sl 3 would be nice, is somehow too big and complex compared to the lx for me at the moment…( and I was scared of novation midi)
Maybe I have to get a dave smith synth to control a freeware softsynth ( joking) or nothing, anyway just some minutes every week i make something…
I came up with the exact same problem “when it loops automation curve becomes flat”. Every recorded automation in a clip gets overwritten. I tried it with DT and a cheap M-Audio midi keyboard, both setup with the generic flexi script from drivenbymoss. Do you found a solution for that?
Hello, no solution but an answer from bitwig.
I wrote it 2 posts below the one you read.
They wrote it has to be touch sensitive encoders. I think ( not sure) push2 has it.
Probably something simple obvious but i don‘t know why its possible on elektrons, i think the encoders are not touch sensitive.
I have other problems ( found a massive bug as i wrote) on the nektar lx so anyway almost can‘t use it.
Things to work around a bit that come to mind:
Hit record off quickly with the other hand ( not very usable for gabber clip automation…)
or automate in arranger and drag it to clip.
Or… use the mouse.
Have a nice evening
Good question. Push seems to have it. I couldn‘t grab the used push yet ( still not sure if also…)so I can‘t say if or how accurate it works.
Thats what bitwig wrote, for that mode you need to have touch sensitive knobs that bw knows when you let go the knob.
Or use mouse.
Don‘t know if its the same with ableton, also what tecnical detail there is that loop automation works like this on korg er-1 or volca( not sure anymore atm ) but not on bw with a knob. Probably something tecnical obvious, if not they should contact the volca designers.
I tried it with DT in Ableton Live and inside a clip in recording mode the automation NOT overwrites after the clip loop start. That is a big minus for Bitwig. I tried the whole evening that the clip automation does not overwrite during recording. But no luck.
Ah interesting. I also thought i remebered it like that when using live lite.
Important that you write your observation as you wrote above with dt, bw and ableton to the bw support. Also that it works as we like on elektron standalone ( and korg i think).
No clue but it really seems possible they overcomplicated something or forgot to add an automation overdub or similar command.
…if u take a second thought…overwriting automation again and again, whenever loop starts again, is not really an advantage, end of the day…
run longer loops…record longer automation lanes…pick the cherries and move on…
The advantage of using touch write mode with mouse is that its only overwriting when i hold down the mouse button, not when loop starts. If its not an advantage for you, no problem you can pick the other two write modes. To make a track thats maybe better, for quick jamming touch is more fun. you‘re right i should at least try to move on and record something, but apart from that:
If touch write phase4 groovebox style works with an elektron and ableton but not with bw thats strange and a disadvantage for me.
I dont think I have seen anybody confirm that touch sensitive controllers work - unless you mean touch screen type controllers. BeatStepPro encoders are touch sensitive but that fact is ignored when using them while overdubbing automation loops. I also think it would be an advantage if it worked. It would allow you to quickly build up some complex modulations of multiple parameters.
Omg the case gets stranger and stranger, we need sherlock holmes or mulder, its already too much for my brain.
the last week until yesterday i thought the purpose of the push ( i don’t have it) touch sensitive knobs is this thing, because bw support answered me:
what they call touch write automation works with mouse or touch sensitive knobs.
(I included one answer from kvr forum in my mail where one says its not working with bspro, now you say bspro has t sensitive knobs…very strange)
Then the poster above said in live it works with normal knobs.
-the developers came from ableton…
( somehow they overcomplicated something or missed something(?)… )
I can well be wrong but i think this is the normal mode( with mouse) in reason, ableton, audiomulch…, didn‘t spend many hours with daws.
Could be they even changed the default with mouse, i think i was confused once until i found the touch mode (below play), not sure there…
-strange also not more people get confused about the issue. Contact support again is the only thing we could do…
I’m guessing it was me on KVR that said its not working with BSP. I added that the BSP is not well supported in bitwig. The controller script they supply is very old, and that moss dropped it too. I’ve tried several 3rd party scripts but none made a difference with this “touch” write feature.
I’d be happy to hear its working with any controller though. I think I’m curious enough now that I will have to dust off my maschine jam and see what those touch slider strips do.
Ah yes sorry now i remember, small world.
I would rather suggest you write to bw support with your experience. And also to Moss via kvr or mail. I‘ m curious what he knows/thinks.
Something is wrong or strange if it works with ableton and digitakt as written from the poster above. (somwehow overcomplicated, only overriding automation when moving the knob could work(?), no clue about tecnical details)
One guy would sell me live 10 with push cheap, i thought i could then sell the license…
Really no clue tecnical detail-wise but it seems overcomplicated to me, even if it would work its strange. Again maybe i’ m wrong…Its normal to have the hand on the knob and turn it when wanted…
I only remember vague in one moss video he did something with a light touch on the tip of the push encoder with his fingertip plus a button as combo command.
Most important and strange:
They said something about the fact that it works the way you expect with digitakt and ableton?
And curious what Moss says about the thing
Sorry to ask. That means you wrote in your mail that it works the way you expect with your dt ( = non touch encoder) and ableton and they didn‘t react about this?
If so I‘ m gonna ask them again someday why/what… its too strange for me…
Or you didn‘t mention your dt and ableton in the mail to support?
Have a nice evening
In case anyone knows or tried that: is it possible to build a grain delay in Grid?
The basic sampler has good granular engine, but can it be used in the effect grid?
