The all things MPC Thread (Part 4)

Who are the guys and who are the other guys? :face_with_spiral_eyes:

The engineering stuff came from a screenshot shared upthread from an email sent by a sweetwater salesman who had ā€œsales engineerā€ on his email signature. No psyop and no TE involved, just me being annoying :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

3 Likes

Sounds like I’m still in the clear and I can continue calling myself a Temu Engineer (that is, engineer from Temu not for Temu) has a better ring to it than plain old Technician!

1 Like

I’ll approve cause you’re actually creating something, designing, transforming material, building stuff, whereas a salesperson… :sweat_smile:

1 Like

Cool! We are still taking all things not MPC!

4 Likes

lol isn’t it obvious you guys are the guys, the other guys are the other guys… you know, the guys with no sampler.
well, a Teenage Engineering psyop would have been interesting … I say no to War, and yes to Sampler Wars while I muahaha in the background planning to get them all !!!
.
.
.
.
btw I know it’s april 1, and I don’t wanna get anybody overly excited but… I think the mpc sample solidify’s the possibility of there being a Model Samples mk2 in the not too distant future, but you didn’t hear it from me.

-Mr. Ain’t neva lied

3 Likes

ā€˜Sunn gets busy. I’ve been using chop button first, ID chops then assign to pads if I want to edit/sound design independently vs globally under chop; but I like the workflow he used in the video lazy chopping to pads off top which is how I do it on L3 and XL.

3 Likes

I can now say that the Sample make a great little drum machine. I decided to make a kit of sounds that I like to use for programming drums. Something closer to the old school machines I used in the 80’s and 90’s. I don’t want to search through 10,000 sounds every time I start to create. I want a nice collection already loaded into a kit. So far I am going with…

Bank A - Acoustic set
Bank B - 909 set
Bank C - Optional Bass and snare drums
Bank D - Cymbals and spectialty cymbals
Bank E - Percussion sounds
Bank F - Latin percussion
Bank G - Sound effects
Bank H - Vocal shouts

As I learn these 128 sounds I will get faster and faster with the machine. The size is perfect to match up with the Digi’s. Once I get it the way that I want I will save it as a template to use as a consistent starting place for creating. I will say that I quickly bailed on creating this ON the MPC Sample. I jumped over to the Live 3 where it was much quicker to browse pack and pick out sounds.

12 Likes

My MPC Sample arrived today and I am stoked. The initial impression is that sound quality is good. Now I’m running through the manual and getting familiar with work flow.

10 Likes

How does creating kits on a full-size MPC work with regards to preparing it for use on the MPC Sample? I read through most of the manual and watched a bunch of the official YouTube walkthrough videos last night and I didn’t see anything concrete about interoperability or loading anything but an MPC Sample project on the MPCS itself.

Love to hear everybody say that the sound quality is good, but thinking as one of those E-words discussed earlier, is this really surprising to anyone? Decent DACs are more or less a non-issue in this day and age on these kinds of products, and never for a second would I think Akai/inMusic would cheap out on the A/D-D/A stage of an MPC sampler. Have there been any devices costing more than a hundred bucks in the past 6 or 7 years that had lackluster sound due to the converters? I can’t think of hearing of any.

Unless everyone’s talking about the sound from the speaker? I still think the Live 2 speaker rules, and the consensus seems to be that the Live 3 sounds even better, but I wouldn’t expect the Sample to blow me away with that little speaker. Excited to hear it for myself, but I think my expectations are not high, so I can’t imagine being disappointed if I’m underwhelmed.

One size fits all 2KXLs

4 Likes

so no bueno w/ the sample then?

1 Like

All of that is fair on the convertor sound and I agree that shouldn’t be a surprise. FWIW, my initial impressions of the effects and emulations are also pretty good.

1 Like

Have only used usb audio, is this accurate?

I think they’re basically the same. In general, with analog outputs, the signal goes through an audio interface’s A/D conversion, so it’s not really a fair comparison. By the way, the Sample even has balanced outputs, which is impressive for such a small unit. In my tests, the analog path also seemed to make the highs just slightly smoother.

11 Likes

Just wanted to say thanks for being such a versed, knowledgeable helpful MPC cat! Ive read your posts for a while now across a few forums and you always come correct educating the youths in an honest and thoughtful way!

8 Likes

yeah, I’d be surprised if there were actually a meaningful difference between the digital signal and what comes out of the D/A, but all of the fun things that can happen when an analog signal passes through a component in the audio chain could definitely affect the sound. there’s really no telling whether that dude is hearing something more to their own taste from the analog outs due to the MPC itself or due to anything else that could be going on down the signal chain (or whether it’s an imagined difference altogether). whether the analog outs sound better or not depends on the exact set of circumstances the MPC finds itself in.

Anyone curious whether the analog outs sound better than the digital out should just give it a shot and see for themselves, I think… this is one of those complicated cases where the answer is both yes and no. just go ahead and saturate some channels downstream and see how things sound on your own setup.

anyway if anyone has any resources / youtube videos / manual pages / writeups on how I could use my MPC software or MPC Live 2 to prepare some kits for when my MPC Sample arrives, please let me know, as I’m still not finding any info/documentation on how exactly drum programs or projects from other MPCs work on the Sample.

Also pretty stoked to have gotten my shipping notification and tracking showing my MPC Sample already on its way… I was on the phone with guitar center earlier today for an entirely unrelated reason and figured I’d ask about my order that hadn’t made its way to the postal carrier yet. dude said they were backordered something like 3000 units and didn’t think I could have gotten a unit shipped after ordering less than 24 hours ago, but I guess I just got lucky. GC was showing backordered til the end of the month earlier this afternoon.

1 Like

Here’s a useful reference regarding compatibility between MPC kits and Sample kits:

https://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=220464#p1903061

According to Tutor, the recommended approach is to convert them using MPC 3.8 (not yet released). This process flattens the pads, which seems to improve compatibility.

2 Likes

I haven’t watched the video but is he running the output of the MPC into an interface or mixer before it hits the speakers?

I’d be much quicker to give credit to an audio interfaces inputs and it’s converters, personally.

Everyone knows none of the new gear ā€˜has that sound’ and if you aren’t using a 60 or 1000 or 2000 you are a chump who doesn’t have ā€˜that sound’ and that’s it. End of discussion.