idk if this post will be helpful to you but i’ve made it a habit to always reload the project after powering on any elektron device.
it’s happened to me a few times across several of them (most often with the og digitone) that after a power cycle i loaded into a project with some “weird shit” - sometimes a pattern was missing, a sequence was transposed etc.
being very deliberate about saving & reloading projects helped here. (so did backing up often)
If you code a whole overbridge Ipad App, please bring a few inspiring digital new machines to this forgotten and lost device to make it even greater.
I don’t really know how to drone, just excited to shut down some GAS for a drone synth
This has been talked about in the bugs thread. I ran into it too. I think it has maybe something to do with playing midi into it while it’s booting up but I’m not sure. It’s gotten into this state a couple times for me. But it’s been a while. It seems to go away with a restart at least.
No luck here, in way less extensive attempts. I learned more about the machines but didn’t get particularly close to any of the stages of the 909 hat.
The sound on sound bit on cymbal synthesis, I think, mentions cymbals sound way beyond our hearing range, like 100kHz, and we hear interfering undertones of that … Still, I’ve often wondered what those resynthesis engines come up with for hats, almost enough to get one.
“forgotten and lost device”???
Hyperbole much?
Most of the time 
Powered up the 'takt this morning and lo and behold, my pattn was there again!
Listening to it with fresh ears, I made some adjustments. Its not going to pass an A/B test but to my sensibilities it sounds like a good start, would be a matter of finetuning further with references from here to get it even closer…
909CHH#2.syx (35.4 KB)
Here’s how it sounds through my Bébé
Doesn’t the 909 use samples for the hihats and cymbals? It’s pretty much impossible to recreate that with simple synthesis engines like in the Syntakt. I’d just buy the Behringer clone 
Or use a sample…
Syntakt is Syntakt.
Do check out the HIHAT pattern I uploaded earlier. Its not just me who thinks it sounds like a sample - my bandmate also said it sounds like a sample, and he’s an experienced electronic musician
Syntakt can bend traditional conceptions of synthesis limits when the stars align…
I did listen and it does sound pretty nice! Was just saying that it’s pretty hard to emulate sampled sounds with high frequency content with synthesis in general. Personally, I don’t care too much about replicating sounds, Syntakt is just a tool to me
In fact , sometime i want a minitaur , then i remeber i have 3 in syntakt (kinda) , the i want a drone ( same ) , the i want a beringer mono (oups i have a syntakt lol)
Ain’t that nice … syntakt keep delivering i just wish teh analog tracks had a hpf added like on digital one (base filter) because it can get messy fast on drones or ambient
but of course. Just saying that its (one of) a synthesizers job to mimic sounds, and sometimes even complex sounds, or at least their “charicatures” can be created, if not to a 100% realistic, but at least usable degree. I’ve heard scarily good electromechanical organ / ep sounds from a DX7 and so on
… All of Syntakt’s digital machines (except swarm) sound like samples, since they do phase reset …
Another interesting closed 909 hihat was posted here: Digital Cymbal Machine sounds dull - #18 by dtr
I often end up dedicating the master fx track to this purpose. There are other ways to achieve side chain and I don’t often need additional overdrive but it’s the only way to add a second filter to the analog tracks…
I tried to replicate the microtonic machine learning 909CHH sound with a Syntakt and hit a wall. Seems like modulation rates on the Syntakt dont go quite as high as in microtonic, so was unable to create that noise pitch modulated triangle sound the microtonic uses for its “tonal” part of the sound.
Oddily enough, couldn’t quite nail the “noise” portion of that sound either.
The serach continues… meanwhile, I’ll see if I could replicate some other tasty microtonic machine learned sounds, since there are some awesome Linddrum snares etc in the pack…
The microtonic machine learned sounds are very interesting - they dont sound exactly like the stuff they supposedly imitate, but there some sort of psychoacoustical element at play which makes those sounds “feel” close to the originals…
Yeah, the “pitches” on that CHH example sound quite close. IME its all about nailing the pitches and the envelope with the HH ALLOY. Still, I feel like HH ALLOY on model:cycles is miles better than the Syntakt version. Obviously that machine didnt port well…
I need to bring my cycles back to the home rig and see if I can get a better result from it. I mean, obviously it doesn’t have any faster modulations than Syntakt’s (perhaps even slower? dunno), but the core timbre is much more appropriate for imitating “drum machine cymbals” IIRC
Yep , done it sometime , but it kills the FX track if need to be used for other tracks ect …
I really hope , elektron isn’t holding on update for an eventual syntakt mkii … they can still enhance it quit a few (reznaming of midi tracks , kits , a chorus ? , chord mode , retrigg ,ect …)
Today’s jam was focused on SY Chip as a pseudo bassline arp cranked through the fx block