i mean getting finer step resolution… so base sequence is 16 tracks. by holding “Track” + “Shift” you can shorten it… but you cannot lengthen beyond 16 steps. If you slow the playback of the track to half or slower, the only way you can punch in more steps per trig is to “record” + “play”-- i’m wondering if there is a way to punch them in manual.
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Not yet, but it’s been discussed at length on the beta test forum including a great way to implement it. Should be coming in a future update.
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Sorry that was a typo, I meant to say that there are indeed numerical indicators for the parameter pages, not the opposite.
That’s good news. Are the beta test forums only accessible by beta testers? Different topic, do you know if the CV “ZM-1” module will back a clock-input for stepping the sequence with pulse or trig inputs?
Yes, the beta forum is for beta testers only. I can’t answer your ZM-1 question as I’m not testing the module (
) but I’ll try to find out the answer.
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‘Should be coming in a future update’
Unless it’s official and you get the firmware , don’t wat for anything…try not to believe what you might read from someone who’s on a beta test …
For one it should probably be confidential.
I’ve heard rumours they might be doing a limited edition white version …
Actually , I haven’t , but if I hadn’t written this last sentence it would quite easily become fact within a few days …
I’ve seen comments on forums for various synths I’ve had that new firmware is on its way , apparently from trusted people who’ve spoken directly to companies , 1 year later there is still nothing. (Eg Avalon baseline and social entropy engine). … they may not be lying , probably aren’t, but that doesn’t mean things actually get released.
I didn’t hear it from anyone. I am a beta tester. The things discussed with the devs, especially those with real concrete ways of implementing, are very real and highly probable to happen.
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ah!! awesome 
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I hope so , I hear good things with the deluge community and developers being engaged , if TE are doing this too , it can only help improve it
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Well, you’ve got at least one elektronaut (me) bringing other users ideas straight to the devs! Very excited to see where it goes from here!
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nice! thanks for the info. after a few days of use, there are a couple simple improvements i would propose if i were at the table with the devs that i think would have a big impact. (+ would be pretty easy updates for TE to implement)…
The track LFOs… increase the max speed. add more destinations. add more shape options. Add some trig steps with envelope parameters. (a la Elektron Rytm)
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after using op-z for 2 weeks I’ve got some thoughts. Im an old op-1 and elektron user (+5 elektron boxes) but the op-z has some great things going:
- the size, its actually perfect since u can access most buttons and shift easily with 2 hands. 1st thought to be 2 small, but the size is perfect for accessing the functions etc.
- fast workflow, the seq and most of the functions is not fare away, no menus …
- great sounding, yes it has better sound engines than op-1, and pair with elektrons.
- u dont need the screen! after 1-2 days I wasnt looking at the app, now I dont use the app at all (4 some actions u need the screen, like loading new syntengines)
- great effects (the punch in is wonderful)
so my main concerns:
- no sampling on board, u can load samples but the direct/easy sampling in op-1 I miss a lot.
- the mic, I dont get any good results, maybe me not getting in?
- 2 few parameters on the synts, would be great with more than 2 (op-1 has 4).
I havent dived into the midi yet, but this weekend I hope for some elektron+op-z midi-wizardness (trick or treat?).
Great little machine!
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I am really curious to know if the punch-in sequence effects are sent to the midi out ports. 
Elektron sequence running being altered by these punch-in would be really cool!
Yes, I had a look and watched also Cuckoo’s video for a first hands on impression.
No, it’s definitely not a device for me. I had my good share of screenless devices … when I don’t use them on a regular basis it takes me too long to get into them again (which doesn’t get better with age).
Personally I also don’t like that patterns longer than 16 steps can only be live recorded. It’s quite strange that you cannot switch through pages of 16 steps.
… and the battery capacity is also quite a bummer. 6 hours on a screenless device is “meh” …
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You can’t step sequence beyond 16 steps?? Surely that must be a simple update to move through pages of 16 steps?
Can you see the other pages if using the app?
It doesn’t really work like pages. If you want a longer sequence, you divide the tempo of the track. So the 16 steps run slower and can still be step sequenced, but the ones in between can only be recorded live (but I think can be quantised though). I don’t own one but saw how it works in Cuckoo’s video.
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Questions to you lucky bastard who have an OP-Z:
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If you replace the samples you have a static set of sample “slots” that are global for all projects or?
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Any sample size limit?
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Can it handle stereo samples?
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Can it be synced to external midi clock or cv pulse or similar?
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Can it output midi data from all tracks of the sequencer?
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This is for all the guys & girls who would like to have a look inside this tiny thing: http://boulderhackerspace.com/2018/10/31/teenage-engineering-op-z-teardown/
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Good questions! I can already answer this one, with yes, if it sees a midi clock it syncs to it. This is described in the guide, here: https://teenageengineering.com/guides/op-z/midi
I haven’t put my own samples on the little critter yet but I’ll give it a go.
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if it takes a CV pulse in for clocking, expands the power of the LFOs, and adds a couple more FX parameters it will be godly. (plus samples).
i’m already blown away.