Teenage Engineering OP-Z

Maybe you can replace the buttons from the front like the op1? There might be a way… nobody but te know really.

I wish there was a module that could record the line input like an audio track…

wait…what do you mean? isn’t that exactly what zm4 does?

i might be missing the sarcasm, sorry :wink:

…and it did it AGAIN. :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :rage: :sob:

Just as I was in a happy mood to play with my OPZ, once again it turned up with a nice factory reset. Last backup, 2 months, lost my best ambient song to date :sob:

Fucking hours’ once again wasted on this piece of crap, my problem is that it’s the gear I’ve been most productive on for the last 2 years. Except that the whole 1st year of music was lost in the the first crash, as I was just starting to forget it and become a bit lenient with backups, here we go again.

I want to “freeze” an external input to go back to standalone. (like audio tracks on the MPC)

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never seen a company releasing a rumble module to give a sense of future electronic devices interacting with the user in a new dimension.

the OP-Z is experimental and that’s a great platform. the line module is ace.

stop this thread for the ones who like it, it’s a superb device and it’s worth every shit comment.

sell it, go on and use other devices. TE is for the other few which prefer harmony and experimentation, as the Idea of the OG OPLab did for the OP1. even today there’s no platform which lets you control lights, visuals and music at the same time, that easy.

touché :sun_with_face:

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The new line module should be a great way to connect the OP-1 and OP-Z together. That, plus a USB cable for midi, and headphones on the Z, and I think it’ll be quite a special setup.

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hmmm

i think i’m still confused by your intent (what is opz standalone mode?) but if you want something like mpc audio tracks…are you hoping for a longer sample buffer than 12 seconds?

something like op1 tape?

Tried this, and it is indeed great. The OP-Z can sequence the OP-1, you can sample back and forth, record to tape, and so on. It’s a lot better than I imagined, and I imagined quite a lot.

Next step: sending CWO-effected sounds through the OP-Z’s tape effects, and resampling back to the OP-1.

Also, the latest OP-Z update makes it much less fussy about which USB-C cable I use for sync.

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More on the OP-Z <> OP-1 hookup.

If you connect them direct with a USB-C to mini USB cable, younget perfect sync. If you set the OP-1 to MIDI ch1, then you can use either keyboard to play the other device.

Neat tricks:

  • Sequence the OP-1’s drum sampler with the OP-Z, and live sample the radio. You get Octatrack-style live mangling. If you set the OP-1’s LFO to use the MIDI LFO, you can p-lock plenty of parameters from the OP-Z.

  • Send the radio into the OP-Z tape, and then stop the transport. This lets you play audio already in the buffer. I realized that you can play several “chunks” from different parts of the buffer, like a chord. Pretty neat, and almost like live sampling.

  • while sending audio from the Line Module into the OP-1 is good, you can’t send the tape track out that way. Tape only goes out the master out. I ordered a headphone splitter, and I’m going to send the main headphone output from the OP-Z to both headphones, and into the OP-1 so I can record to tape.

  • I also plan to send that split audio to an iPad to record it into Loopy app. I’d use USB, but that messes with the sync. I may also be able to sync to the iPad using Bluetooth.

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TE support and sales is nuts… I have two open tickets:

  • one for cracks on the volume button (second time it happens, it’s already a replacement). They don’t want to send a new one as they said 1 year warranty is over. In France legal warranty is 2 years, and after mentioning that they ghosted me.
  • defective battery. After I sent them the invoice, they said it was covered by warranty and sent me a new one.

WTF? On one ticket they says it’s not under warranty, but on another one it’s ok??

Also, I just received my order for a line module and roll-up bag, I was excited to open it and… No line module inside!!! :rage: Seriously, there was just 2 items to put in the box, and they forgot 1? There was even a packing list paper mentioning the line module. One more ticket, and more wait for the line module again…

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question, the op-z is so small, is there anything about the internals that would make it difficult for users to put it in another sturdier case?

Unfortunately the keyboard portion is a flexible printed circuit that is permanently attached to the top of the case. I suppose someone could drill out the plastic to remove the board, but I can’t imagine it turning out well. Seems fiddly.

Lots of tear down pics here:

Wondered if anyone can advise, I googled it but no joy

For each of my instruments I have the TE synths filling 9 of the 10 slots. I’d like to sample into tracks 5-8 but I’ve only one slot in each.

My question is can anyone recommend which to delete from each track? I know the answer is which one I don’t like but I generally find use for them all. Is there ones that generally are seen as best on certain tracks?

Thanks

If you remove synths in the configurator, it will not affect the existing pattern. so you can safely remove and install them as needed.

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None of that means you can’t take out individual on/off switches from the front. That could be the circuit that talks to each switch.

It doesn’t even look like circuits going in the order of the keys.

Haven’t got my op-z on me to test, but are you saying that if I sample into a track, it can get stored on configutor and then swapped back in even if I remove it from all tracks on the op-z?

User samples are stored in the OP-Z itself, not in the configurator app. Even if you unmount a user sample from the 0-9 slot, the sample will not be erased. (User samples will be erased by pressing the X button on the configurator.)

But you can only store a maximum of 10 samples/sound engines per track? So using configurator doesn’t expand the memory of the op-z/offload it to another device?

no, configurator cannot do that.
I have tested again, if a user sample was unmounted from all tracks, it was erased from op-z when disconnect from the op-z app.

If you move a user sample to an empty slot on another track, it is possible to handle more than 10 samples per track.

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