Teenage Engineering EP-133 K.O. II

don’t forget the SP-1200, a legendary sampler that’s mostly fader-based

ps. love your OP-1F sound pack, great work!

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am i the only one that doesn’t really miss resampling? resampling tends to distract me. i’d rather them focus on refining the current features and improving them rather than adding resampling.

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ep-133 takes me back to the days of the mpc 60. no screen. just a sequencer, pads, and a little slider. (no resample, hehe) even the little rectangle plasticky button presses feel just like they did on the 60.

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Thought I would, but haven’t thought about it once since using the machine. The workflow is too fast for resampling stuff.

yeah I don’t use resampling. I enjoy the KO just the way it is.

No, I rarely use resample on this kind of device either, not enough memory and not enough editing for that, for me. I do use resampling on other higher spec gear though where memory and editing are not limited.

I definitely intend to sample the output of the KO-II into other samplers though. I see these mid range kind of device as fun, quick idea generators rather than something I’d use to finish a track on.

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And if you reaaaaally want resampling now, using a 2nd KO II will resolve this. Imagine the power.

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Thanks for the clarification, then!
Much appreciated, will go check that asap!

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I do hope they add resampling. Alongside other gear it’s no biggie, but on its own you hit the 6 stereo voice limit rather quickly. I mainly intended to use the EP133 standalone as a sort of sketch pad, and here being able to bounce down entire tracks or bake in FX can really take it to another level.

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i’m actually strongly considering this. at the price you can’t go wrong. grab the gear protection from guitar center and you can easily replace them if something goes wrong.

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I’ve rarely seen such bad shipping.

1st world problems aside, they shipped Irish ones to a drop off point even tho we gave our addresses.

mine’s now, 2 weeks later, on the day of delivery, saying I need to enter address info or it’ll send it back to sweden, even tho the tracking has the drop off address written in full on the screen already, and it doesn’t allow me access anything to change stuff. seems like only the sender can.

I mean, it’s ups’s own drop off point. lol

I’m in no rush tbh, but it’s a birra a mess :joy:

Fully agreed @digidon, it is a very oldschool MPC experience. Indeed, it remembers me all the MPC that I used on some fundamentals - excluding obviously JJOS and the new ones.

As you pointed, it is interesting to remember that the MPC 60, 60 II, 3000 and 2000 (the machines used in ALL “MPC albums” made before 1999) don´t have a resample feature.

So although resampling is good (specially in a machine with cool FX) and will be amazing if the K.O II is updated in the future with the feature, I can´t say it is essential, specially considering that it seems to be an economy decision to keep it on track with the price/market target.

In practical terms, although everyone have their own setup and not everybody have “samplers to spare”, I will use a K.O OG to resample and keep it “in house”.

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I tend to agree that at this price point, the lack of resampling isn’t a surprise, although it would obviously be welcome.

I would definitely miss portamento though. I’ve always missed it on the 404. Also, Chompi and WoFi don’t have it either, and they’re directly inspired by early samplers like the sk-1 and vss-30 where portamento was half the fun. Any sampler that you can play chromatically should have portamento, imho. I mean, you just can’t bring the funk without the glide!

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I was able to figure out and remember the ep-133 within 20 minutes. I’m not at all saying one is better than the other, but when I don’t use the sp404 I literally can’t remember anything and none of it is intuitive to me.

It’s an incredibly powerful and revered machine, but I totally get why so many people pass along their sp404. To me, it’s the opposite of intuitive.

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pretty sure the MPC 2000XL DID resample. Also pretty sure it was released BEFORE 1999.

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don’t forget the SP-1200, a legendary sampler that’s mostly fader-based

Perfect. Fader based - much more than the MPCs - and super fun to use too.

ps. love your OP-1F sound pack, great work!

Thank you very much, I hope that it is helpful in your music! :slight_smile: Maybe this year I will record another one, this time sampling analog synths.

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Correct on both points. The MPC 2000XL was released in 1997. Had resampling.

There’s a direct correlation between ease of use and less functionality. Many of the complaints about the 404mkii didn’t really exist on the previous models because they had less functionality and were dead simple. I’m probably not the best to judge whether or not the mkii is easy to use because I’ve been using the SP’s for so long, and when the mkii was released, it was just a matter of learning the new stuff, which wasn’t THAT difficult. I’m of the opinion that if you really WANT to learn something you will. I mean, acoustic instruments aren’t exactly intuitive either, and no one will be learning those within 20 minutes.

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I think Legato mode does that. Mine hasn’t arrived yet but I remember you can set it to Legato and edit the Glide.

@alexbuga Are you talking about the 133? If so, that would be amazeballs. If someone could confirm that there is proper pitch glide, that would be fantastic! Legato on its own doesn’t effect pitch, it just doesn’t retrigger the start of the amp envelope on the new note.

Also, can anyone confirm how many octaves the 133 can play? The 404 is limited to two octaves, which is bummer time.