Teenage Engineering EP-133 K.O. II

I think it does hang with some $1000 machines tbh, the workflow is so good that it doesn’t need feature saturation, it would start becoming a menu diving, esoteric key combo 404 and lose its charm.

It’s been out for like two weeks. I think it will get some (needed) QOL updates and bug fixes but I hope they keep the surface level functionality ethos and just add things like USB-C audio. It doesn’t need to be a DAW. Do you need an 8” OLED to show some static icons? The OP-1 already exists.

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tbh if a filter per pad would eat voices seems like a waste of effort to implement, with the limited UI available to show what voices are being stolen and why, seems like more trouble than benefit considering the mild sculpting that would be allowed without resampling

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definitely dont want filter per pad if it eats voices.

glad to know the hardware limitations. hoping it stops asinine feature request, but it wont. :crazy_face:

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The main feature i would like to see for my workflow is two ways audio over USB C
i don’t intend to use the machine to finish anything inside of it but def as inspiration kickstarter something to lets say load up initial elements and go on a field day to see if catch the essence of a song or project that i will ultimately be finishing on a daw with all my other resources.

USB audio capture and transfer like its possible to do on the 404mk2 would be fantastic for this
imagine just browsing youtube on any device and suddenly you are prompted to sample something… do it quick and easy with just 1 data cable, flip and mangle and then drop the stems in sync to your daw, cooking all the punch effects you want just perfoming with it into your daw in sync , no interface needed just your other device wether laptop, ipad, another op-1 etc…

I think if this is implemented this will go with me everywhere and become the go to tool
i feel because of portability, battery etc its meant to become. @te-david

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Don’t know how a flagship would make it menu diving by adding a more powerful cpu for sampling while the sequencer is running, is that menu diving? More powerful cpu means more powerful QOL updates into the future. Nor did I ask for an 8 inch screen. I actually didn’t know the op-1 screen was 8 inches. Huh. Interesting.

I don’t think you really read what I wrote. Or understand.

But the fact is the cpu they used for this machine is not going to allow those QOL updates everyone thinks they are getting. And that’s fine with me. I’m still using this machine.

Also. This has just as many street fighter combos as the 404. They have combos on here where you tap shift hold this button then the button you want. Street fighter anyone. And the more QOL you want will just add to it. That is if the cpu can handle it.

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To each their own, but objectively this seems to be a strange reaction to receiving new gear that is broken.

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i have pretty big hands and i gotta say the combo on the 133 to change the duration of a note in the sequencer is quite a stretch for me

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I doubt many if any QOL updates.

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hallelujah :pray: :tipping_hand_man:

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it would be a great feature!

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me too!

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Yeah I’ve been struggling with samples being truncated in some really strange ways. Someone above mentioned their struggles with voice stealing and so I think that’s what’s happening here.

I’m not ever keeping track of how many voices I’m using and rarely pay attention to whether the samples I’m using are mono or stereo, so I have a feeling that’s what’s going on.

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I’m not happy about it, but what is the point venting on the internet? I have a support ticket submitted.

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Fair point.

I only mention it because it’s fascinating to see so many people just lol at receiving broken gear.

the voice stealing is definitely a thing but the playback mode is definitely also causing issues on its own.

i know that because if you stop the sequencer and try to play a longer sample back solo on its own it will still get the Oneshot playback wrong until i mess around with it. basically it will just play a small portion of it instead of playing the whole sample.

add in wonky and inconsistent voice stealing on top of that and you got a real mess.

sidenote: honestly can’t really fathom how they didn’t fix oneshot playback before releasing the device? i encountered it like 10 times in a few hours last night. i’d guess testers and TE engineers themselves must have experienced it hundreds and thousands of times but somehow didn’t prioritize it. it is an extremely glaring issue on a sampler lol. playing back samples at a basic level is sort of important.

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TE is like, “oh, we’re gonna give you happy accidents whether you like it or not, capeesh?”

EP-133 is so damn fun to play! Has-it-been-four-hours-already kinda fun.

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sample based house is my favorite kind of house this is great!

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I wonder if the voice stealing is prioritized with layer A taking highest priority. The voice stealing seem to work quite well when you use the recommended layer setup from the manual.

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So someone said that the many reports on here might not be representative for the whole customer base that is outside this forum. Well here are the reviews from Thomann (one of the biggest sellers in Germany), were nearly every one of them mentions a hardware fault (2.8 of 5 stars rating):

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